The Rocky Mountain Collegian

Originally posted by

Cathy

"The first amendment protects that Florida student's insufferable agitprop, as it does the Collegian's crude, clumsy, but principled editorial."

This is where you are TOTALLY WRONG. The First Amendment does NOT say that the moderator of the John Kerry forum could not shut off the loudmouth's microphone and ask the campus police to remove him from the room, which is what happened. The First Amendment does not say that CSU cannot remove McSwane from his job and give you a pay cut. It says that the federal government can't make laws that restrict your freedom of speech (or freedom of the press). Neither incident has anything to do with the federal government. The First Amendment does not say that no one can stop you from saying or doing anything you want to do. It is totally silent on the issue. If you want to be a professional journalist, in between your English classes, you should learn a little about other subjects, such as history and civics.

The "student" in Florida barged in to an event, was told that the question period was already over, and proceeded to shout and take over the event even after his microphone was turned off BY THE MODERATOR. The moderator asked... Who? The FBI? No... The state police? No.... The local sheriff? No... The CAMPUS POLICE to remove the guy from the room. They asked him to leave. He refused. They tried to "escort him" by taking his arms. He became violent. They attempted to restrain him. He became even more violent. As he had possession of a dangerous weapon (the one handcuff they had gotten on him) and was swinging it around, they used the next step, the taser gun. Did they shoot him? Did the pistol whip him? Did they hang him from a tree? ... No, they restrained him as it was their job to do and removed him from the event. The only person responsible for what happened to Meyer is Meyer. Maybe if you reported a few of these facts, your paper would gain some credibility.

"the statement was made to challenge the alarming amount of regulation being placed on what we can say, when we can say it, where we can say it."
NEWS FLASH! There has always been lots of regulation on what you can say, when you can say it, and where you can say it and there always will be. Maybe not in preschool, but in the real world. Welcome to it.

Way to go Cathy! WHy is civility not understood by these students?

I enjoy Cathy's fairly rude posting regarding history and civics, but I think Cathy should also remember an important piece of history called the 14th Amendment, which applies the Bill of Rights to the states. Or maybe just basic Constitutional principles which state that the Constitution is the supreme law of the land- the states cannot make legislation that is more restrictive.

I am not saying I agree with how Mr. Meyer handled himself during Kerry's visit, nor do I agree with people not learning the facts of what happened that day before forming an opinion. However, I think we all need to respect each other's modes of expression and opinions, instead of blindly attacking them and calling them stupid. I don't think the editorial staff printed what they did with absolutely no forethought- so don't attack their thoughts without a little forethought of your own.

Originally posted by

Cathy

"The first amendment protects that Florida student's insufferable agitprop, as it does the Collegian's crude, clumsy, but principled editorial."

This is where you are TOTALLY WRONG. The First Amendment does NOT say that the moderator of the John Kerry forum could not shut off the loudmouth's microphone and ask the campus police to remove him from the room, which is what happened. The First Amendment does not say that CSU cannot remove McSwane from his job and give you a pay cut. It says that the federal government can't make laws that restrict your freedom of speech (or freedom of the press). Neither incident has anything to do with the federal government. The First Amendment does not say that no one can stop you from saying or doing anything you want to do. It is totally silent on the issue. If you want to be a professional journalist, in between your English classes, you should learn a little about other subjects, such as history and civics.

The "student" in Florida barged in to an event, was told that the question period was already over, and proceeded to shout and take over the event even after his microphone was turned off BY THE MODERATOR. The moderator asked... Who? The FBI? No... The state police? No.... The local sheriff? No... The CAMPUS POLICE to remove the guy from the room. They asked him to leave. He refused. They tried to "escort him" by taking his arms. He became violent. They attempted to restrain him. He became even more violent. As he had possession of a dangerous weapon (the one handcuff they had gotten on him) and was swinging it around, they used the next step, the taser gun. Did they shoot him? Did the pistol whip him? Did they hang him from a tree? ... No, they restrained him as it was their job to do and removed him from the event. The only person responsible for what happened to Meyer is Meyer. Maybe if you reported a few of these facts, your paper would gain some credibility.

"the statement was made to challenge the alarming amount of regulation being placed on what we can say, when we can say it, where we can say it."
NEWS FLASH! There has always been lots of regulation on what you can say, when you can say it, and where you can say it and there always will be. Maybe not in preschool, but in the real world. Welcome to it.

As an alumni, I find it incredibly sad that the CSU Journalism department is unable to teach students that the First Amendment only limits the power of Congress to limit speech and says nothing about how other institutions, employers, and governmental entities are free to place limits on what someone can say or print. Clearly, the cry "free speech" is a lame inaccurate attempt to justify saying whatever one wants as being free from any consequences.

It is regrettable that any CSU student is so poorly educated as to not understand the language of the First Amendment of the Constitution.

Cathy, I agree with your assessment of the incident between Democratic Presidential hopeful J. Kerry and "the student".

You do not have the Right to trump on another person Rights.

This act was very Liberal and of course Selfish.

May I add, CSU student McSwain should be FIRED for his violent statement ("Taser this ... F*** Bush.") as a representative of CSU.

Firstly Student McSwain, how would you deal with someone who basically used force to be heard over the moderator's objections?

Secondly Student McSwain, what does President G. Bush has to do with a J. Kerry's speech?

Dude what are you smoking?

Back off from 'the pipe', and put the bottle down.

Take a Reasoning course McSwain, wow, stupidity is abundant in the Rocky Mountain Collegian editorial section.

Originally posted by

Harold A. Maio

It is a curious culture that finds offense is a term that is basically without meaning, except that which we choose to assign to it. How fuck became an expletive is through consensus, and only through consensus. It is four letters, and like duck, muck, tuck, buck, luck, puck, suck, all of which differ by but one letter, it is simply a sound.

One of the rules of our culture appears to be that we must accept that this particular term is offensive. Curiously, it is the broadest agreement to which we as a people adhere. We do not adhere to our Constitution with similar tenacity, nor to any ethic, on every basic concept of democracy we are free to differ, and we do. But on this single expulsion of air from our mouth, or ink from our pen, we insist, the term we all somehow know, learned, were taught, must not be uttered.

Strange, are we not?

Harold A. Maio
Advisory Board
American Journal of Psychiatric Rehabilitation
Board Member
Partners in Crisis
Former Consulting Editor
Psychiatric Rehabilitation Journal
Boston University
Language Consultant
UPENN Collaborative on Community Integration
of Individuals with Psychiatric Disabilities
Home:
8955 Forest St
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khmaio@earthlink.net

It's strange that liberal goofs keep getting "important" titles at unversities.

I think you are having an intellectual crisis there buddy. Better go talk to a shrink grand poobbah of titles. We are not impressed.

Originally posted by

Harold A. Maio

It is a curious culture that finds offense is a term that is basically without meaning, except that which we choose to assign to it. How fuck became an expletive is through consensus, and only through consensus. It is four letters, and like duck, muck, tuck, buck, luck, puck, suck, all of which differ by but one letter, it is simply a sound.

One of the rules of our culture appears to be that we must accept that this particular term is offensive. Curiously, it is the broadest agreement to which we as a people adhere. We do not adhere to our Constitution with similar tenacity, nor to any ethic, on every basic concept of democracy we are free to differ, and we do. But on this single expulsion of air from our mouth, or ink from our pen, we insist, the term we all somehow know, learned, were taught, must not be uttered.

Strange, are we not?

Harold A. Maio
Advisory Board
American Journal of Psychiatric Rehabilitation
Board Member
Partners in Crisis
Former Consulting Editor
Psychiatric Rehabilitation Journal
Boston University
Language Consultant
UPENN Collaborative on Community Integration
of Individuals with Psychiatric Disabilities
Home:
8955 Forest St
Ft Myers FL 33907
khmaio@earthlink.net

Originally posted by

Harold A. Maio

It is a curious culture that finds offense is a term that is basically without meaning, except that which we choose to assign to it. How fuck became an expletive is through consensus, and only through consensus. It is four letters, and like duck, muck, tuck, buck, luck, puck, suck, all of which differ by but one letter, it is simply a sound.

One of the rules of our culture appears to be that we must accept that this particular term is offensive. Curiously, it is the broadest agreement to which we as a people adhere. We do not adhere to our Constitution with similar tenacity, nor to any ethic, on every basic concept of democracy we are free to differ, and we do. But on this single expulsion of air from our mouth, or ink from our pen, we insist, the term we all somehow know, learned, were taught, must not be uttered.

Strange, are we not?

Harold A. Maio
Advisory Board
American Journal of Psychiatric Rehabilitation
Board Member
Partners in Crisis
Former Consulting Editor
Psychiatric Rehabilitation Journal
Boston University
Language Consultant
UPENN Collaborative on Community Integration
of Individuals with Psychiatric Disabilities
Home:
8955 Forest St
Ft Myers FL 33907
khmaio@earthlink.net

Is this guy an award-winning example of some of the pompous, narcissistic, delusional "educators" we have teaching our young, or is it just me?

Let me sum up his post for you, "Words are unimportant, unless they're titles."

This post is so unreal it must be a joke.

Originally posted by

Harold A. Maio

Strange, are we not?

Harold A. Maio
Advisory Board
American Journal of Psychiatric Rehabilitation
Board Member
Partners in Crisis
Former Consulting Editor
Psychiatric Rehabilitation Journal
Boston University
Language Consultant
UPENN Collaborative on Community Integration
of Individuals with Psychiatric Disabilities
Home:
8955 Forest St
Ft Myers FL 33907
khmaio@earthlink.net

Harold, YOU are definitely strange! And a doofus too. I hope you're not offended by that!

Originally posted by

Harold A. Maio

It is a curious culture that finds offense is a term that is basically without meaning, except that which we choose to assign to it. How fuck became an expletive is through consensus, and only through consensus. It is four letters, and like duck, muck, tuck, buck, luck, puck, suck, all of which differ by but one letter, it is simply a sound.

One of the rules of our culture appears to be that we must accept that this particular term is offensive. Curiously, it is the broadest agreement to which we as a people adhere. We do not adhere to our Constitution with similar tenacity, nor to any ethic, on every basic concept of democracy we are free to differ, and we do. But on this single expulsion of air from our mouth, or ink from our pen, we insist, the term we all somehow know, learned, were taught, must not be uttered.

Strange, are we not?

Harold A. Maio
Advisory Board
American Journal of Psychiatric Rehabilitation
Board Member
Partners in Crisis
Former Consulting Editor
Psychiatric Rehabilitation Journal
Boston University
Language Consultant
UPENN Collaborative on Community Integration
of Individuals with Psychiatric Disabilities
Home:
8955 Forest St
Ft Myers FL 33907
khmaio@earthlink.net

YAWN.....you are the epitome of an arrogant, bloated, elitist liberal. all your titles
and poofery don't entitle you to presume to talk down to anyone. we "strange" people are certainly not impressed.

meh.

FUCK IT to much effort to explaining things to a fool

Originally posted by

Harold A. Maio

It is a curious culture that finds offense is a term that is basically without meaning, except that which we choose to assign to it. How fuck became an expletive is through consensus, and only through consensus. It is four letters, and like duck, muck, tuck, buck, luck, puck, suck, all of which differ by but one letter, it is simply a sound.

One of the rules of our culture appears to be that we must accept that this particular term is offensive. Curiously, it is the broadest agreement to which we as a people adhere. We do not adhere to our Constitution with similar tenacity, nor to any ethic, on every basic concept of democracy we are free to differ, and we do. But on this single expulsion of air from our mouth, or ink from our pen, we insist, the term we all somehow know, learned, were taught, must not be uttered.

Strange, are we not?

Harold A. Maio
Advisory Board
American Journal of Psychiatric Rehabilitation
Board Member
Partners in Crisis
Former Consulting Editor
Psychiatric Rehabilitation Journal
Boston University
Language Consultant
UPENN Collaborative on Community Integration
of Individuals with Psychiatric Disabilities
Home:
8955 Forest St
Ft Myers FL 33907
khmaio@earthlink.net

File me under _pinhead_ I TOTALLY blew that comment, sorry

Originally posted by

Harold A. Maio

It is a curious culture that finds offense is a term that is basically without meaning, except that which we choose to assign to it. How fuck became an expletive is through consensus, and only through consensus. It is four letters, and like duck, muck, tuck, buck, luck, puck, suck, all of which differ by but one letter, it is simply a sound.

One of the rules of our culture appears to be that we must accept that this particular term is offensive. Curiously, it is the broadest agreement to which we as a people adhere. We do not adhere to our Constitution with similar tenacity, nor to any ethic, on every basic concept of democracy we are free to differ, and we do. But on this single expulsion of air from our mouth, or ink from our pen, we insist, the term we all somehow know, learned, were taught, must not be uttered.

Strange, are we not?

Harold A. Maio
Advisory Board
American Journal of Psychiatric Rehabilitation
Board Member
Partners in Crisis
Former Consulting Editor
Psychiatric Rehabilitation Journal
Boston University
Language Consultant
UPENN Collaborative on Community Integration
of Individuals with Psychiatric Disabilities
Home:
8955 Forest St
Ft Myers FL 33907
khmaio@earthlink.net

Originally posted by

Dave Collins

Anyone who has to resort to vulgarity to make his/her point is a pinhead who is not to be taken seriously.

I TOTALLY AGREE. LET'S GET BACK TO INTELLIGENT SPEECH FOR COMMON SENSE DISCOURSE NOT LOW CLASS LANGUAGE FOR IGNORANT RANTS.

Originally posted by

John Kane

Welcome to the real world.

Well said!

Originally posted by

John Kane

Once again, you are entirely missing the point (no matter how 'cutesy' you phrase it...). The First Amendment is intact and, in spite of your efforts to prove how base the language it will protect, does survive and thrive. After you published your juvenile spew, no one was approached by government agents (or military police), no one was thrown in jail, no families were persecuted, unlike in most countries in the world.

Now, let's look at the real adult world, shall we? Advertisers don't HAVE to support childish behavior; editors don't HAVE to retain their jobs if they don't show any leadership sense; colleges don't HAVE to have a newspaper run by students. None of this is guaranteed by the First Amendment. If you publish something that will cause controversy, you must be prepared to deal with the consequences. If you continue to publish puerile tripe, I can guarantee that you won't have much of an advertising base or readership.

This was a stupid stunt - it has nothing to do with journalism or the First Amendment. I'm surprised that this response is catching you off-guard. You need to re-evaluate your definition of maturity.

Welcome to the real world.

Actions have reactions!
I feel for the employees of the newspaper that you caused to either have their pay cut...or have been dismissed.
But, you will blame it on others.
Remember the Dixie Chicks!!
You can say or print what you want... but people dont have to buy into what you say, or agree with you.
This is why I have taken advantage of my rights and my free speech. I have immediatly stopped all donatiions, advertising, scholarship funding, employer paid furthering education from my company to your university.
You can explain to them, how your actions hurt them and their family's future.

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Yep, let's look at the real world with a controlled mainstream media who even blacks out presidential candidates at will. A real world where freedom of speech has been put behind chain link fences into "Free Speech zones," a real world where FEARDOM replaces FREDDOM, a real world where there's not a pullout of ads when habeas corpus is pulled, a real world where we condone and pay for torture, a real world where millions are killed -- most of them innocents, a real world where the environment is shot to blazes by mega-corporations for profit, a real world where the health of the population is ruined by pharmacology and nuclear testing, a real world where science can be "edited" by politics, a real world where appearances and perceptions trump facts every time. So you balk at the f-word?
Oh, come ON!

Originally posted by

John Kane

Once again, you are entirely missing the point (no matter how 'cutesy' you phrase it...). The First Amendment is intact and, in spite of your efforts to prove how base the language it will protect, does survive and thrive. After you published your juvenile spew, no one was approached by government agents (or military police), no one was thrown in jail, no families were persecuted, unlike in most countries in the world.

Now, let's look at the real adult world, shall we? Advertisers don't HAVE to support childish behavior; editors don't HAVE to retain their jobs if they don't show any leadership sense; colleges don't HAVE to have a newspaper run by students. None of this is guaranteed by the First Amendment. If you publish something that will cause controversy, you must be prepared to deal with the consequences. If you continue to publish puerile tripe, I can guarantee that you won't have much of an advertising base or readership.

This was a stupid stunt - it has nothing to do with journalism or the First Amendment. I'm surprised that this response is catching you off-guard. You need to re-evaluate your definition of maturity.

Welcome to the real world.

Oh Yea,
Wait until Bill O'Reilly gets a hold of this. He'll do his damndest to demonize this University. And Besides, I read Westword every week Don't like the word "Fuck"? Don't read Jason Sheehan's resturaunt reviews. My point is that "Fuck" has been used in print for 40 years. And you and everyone else on this comment section act like a bunch of self-righteous, prudish, Victorian virgins. Chances are you've been saying "Fuck" at one time or another since the third or fourth grade. And if you are married, chances are that you fucked before you were engaged. At least three times per year. Since you were 15.

So yes, the first ammendment does protect the word, "Fuck", in adult media.

I hope I didn't offend your virgin ears or anything...

Originally posted by

Brian Lorenz

I would have to say that if I have ever seen the proper use of the F word, it was in this editorial. The purpose was to spark debate and it did. In a society where proper english is butchered everyday it is refreshing to see a vulgar word we have all become rather numb to being used the way it should be.

I'm not sure that this is the type of debate that McSwane intended. If he wanted to stir debate over the tasering in FL, that is one thing. He managed to stir debate over the use of a word. No sense behind it.

The BSA needs to see this as a business decision. McSwane's childish use of an expletive managed to cost the paper revenue which is translating to salary cuts and lost jobs, the university donations...REAL consequences. He needs to suffer real consequences also and lose the job. If he'd caused an employer to lose that sort of money, he'd have been fired on Friday.

Originally posted by

Jim Colbert

That expletive only convinces more people that much of the left wing are classless pieces of garbage.

The fact that the right (obviously where you are from) finds trouble with a word that is actually the true sentiment of the majorty of the American population is troublesome. Are you more pissed off because someone say Fuck Bush, or more pissed off because you are left to defend a president who redefines the word incompetience?

If in fact you are irritated because it is disrespectful to talk about the president in such ways, I ask you to look no further thabn your own party's rhetoric concerning President Clinton during his presidency. Research your republican conroies and what they said and these are elected officals, not college students.

but there is a difference. Clinton was heckled due to a sexual act while being married. Bush is ridiculed because he is incompetent, stubborn, and fails to come to the realization he has murdered 3,000 more americans by sending them to a war it was ill prepared to fight. Remember Mission Accomplished? This is coming from a veteran od the United states Marine Corps, something I am guessing you know nothing about, and most of the republican right knows nothign about. From one veteran who served under Clinton, FUCK BUSH!

Two words that need to be spoken and repeated, printed and reprinted until he is held accountable for his failed administration, and failed policies.

FUCK BUSH!

Originally posted by

Jim Colbert

That expletive only convinces more people that much of the left wing are classless pieces of garbage.

Are you kidding? Have seen the obscene posts from both sides of the fence? Conservatives and liberals alike have been pretty disgusting. Even more so, considering these admonishments are being addressed to students!

Originally posted by

Jim Colbert

That expletive only convinces more people that much of the left wing are classless pieces of garbage.

Just because someone has a different political point of view does not make one a classless piece of garbage. This stereotyping says a lot about you and demonstrates how completely obtuse you are. If lumping those who follow a political ideology into one category, then one may assume that you as a right winger are a backwoods, inbred, simpleton who believes all of the rhetoric spewed out by this lame-duck administration. Now would that be a fair assessment of your character? Maybe so.

Originally posted by

K Weed

No fraud here.
A LESSON WAS LEARNED.
You guys lost $30,000 in ad revenue and your boss may get the axe. Actions have consequences.
Welcome to the real world.

Yep, let's look at the real world with a controlled mainstream media who even blacks out presidential candidates at will. A real world where freedom of speech has been put behind chain link fences into "Free Speech zones," a real world where FEARDOM replaces FREEDOM, a real world where there's not a pullout of ads when habeas corpus is pulled, a real world where we condone and pay for torture, a real world where millions are killed -- most of them innocents, a real world where the environment is shot to blazes by mega-corporations for profit, a real world where the health of the population is ruined by pharmacology and nuclear testing, a real world where science can be "edited" by politics, a real world where appearances and perceptions trump facts every time. So you balk at the f-word?
Oh, come ON!

Originally posted by

K Weed

No fraud here.
A LESSON WAS LEARNED.
You guys lost $30,000 in ad revenue and your boss may get the axe. Actions have consequences.
Welcome to the real world.

Brother Mc Swane!

'May Peace Be With You'

It's a crying shame that the editor Mc Swane is being reprimanded for his 'Freedom of speech'...Come on Right Wingers...AMERICA...Wake up and smell the cappucino...Starbucks is yesterdays' left-over at the Dow Jones...Look at where the US Dollar is going...

We 'Indians' [At the risk of sounding racist...No offence to your
'Homeb-Red' on remote reservations varieties...But us true blue 'Hindustanis'...Thank you] have an extremely and spiritual pragmatic way of dealing with such trivial issues...

Please may we suggest that all you 'Bigots' protesting about the use of the "F" word read with an open mind?!?

No smoke signals from this side...Mc Swane this is your 'Trans Atlantic and Pan Pacific' / 'Karmic + Cosmic Cousin'...Humbly requesting you not get stuck in the 'Syntax'...Read carefully and puhleez get your lawyers to do the same.

********
The "F" word has "Unfathomable linguistic potential."...

Ask Naom Chomsky? ...

Better still...Here comes the tried and time-tested Indian formula of the Five "Wives" and the One "Husband" to your rescuse...

Consider this: Depends entirely on various socio-political factors,
'What' you intended to say, to 'Who': 'When': 'Where'; 'Why' and 'How' you said it.

Speaking the TRUTH, from the HEART today in a society like America, is an extremely rare and most dignified virtue of the BRAVE ! Spoken like a true son of the soil...Mc Swane!

Reminds one of the late Englisg Author and Humorist: George Bernard Shaw's tearse critique and we quote verbatim

"America is the only country in the World, that went from BARBARISM TO TERROR-I-SAM without civilisation in between"

Never apologise Mc Swane! We got an online petition in millions going on for you right here...right now...

Please do suggest the same to [Mc Swane's] legal advisors / defense attorneys...They have a "CASE"...Way to go? CAPITOL HILL and the White House...Mc Swane......Power to you!

OSHO-Quoted Verbatiom
"The word 'FUCK' is one of the most Powerful and Beautiful words, and the Enghlish language shoud be proud of it. I don't think any other language has any such beautiful word.

One 'Tom' from Califonia has done a great research on it. I think he must be the famous 'Tom' of the Tom...'DICK' and HARRY POTTER...MAKING OF THE WIZARD Fame.

He says one of the most interesting wods in the English language toady is the word FUCK. It is one magical word just by it's sound it can describe...'Pain', 'Pleasure', 'Hate' and 'Love'!!!

In the 'HINGLISH' [Hindi + English] langauage, it falls into many grammatical categories...

It can be used as a:
Verb both trasitive: John 'F***ed' Mary!!!
And intransitive: Mary 'F***ed' John!!!

As a 'Noun': Mary is a Fine 'F**k!!!

It can be used as an
Adjective: Mary is 'F*****g' Beautiful.

As you can see ther are not many words with the versatility of 'F**k'

Besides the sexual meaning there are also the following uses:

Fraud: I got 'F****d' at the used car lot

Ignorance: 'F****d', if I know.

Trouble: I guess I am 'F****d' now!

Aggression: 'F**k' You!

Displeasure: What the 'F**k' is going on here

Difficulty: I cant understand this 'F*****g' Job

Incompetence: He is a 'F****r'

Suspicion: What the 'F**k' are you doing?!?

Enjoyment: I had a 'F*****g' time!!!

Request: Get the 'F**k' out of here!!!

Hostility: I am gonna knock your 'F*****g' balls off!!!

Greeting: How the 'F**k are you?!?

Apathy: Who gives a 'F**k'!!!

Innovation: Get a bigger 'F*****g" hammer!!!

Surprise: 'F**k' you scared the shit out of me!!!

Anxiety: Today is really 'F****d'!!!

And its is very healthy too.

If every morning you chant it as 'Transendental Meditation'...

The first thing when you get up repeat the 'Mantra' five times...It clears the throat...Thats how I keep my throat clear"


With an attitude of gratitude on behalf of half the world populace, that diasgrees with Bush and his "Terror-I Sam",
Regards and Much respect to you Brother Mc Swane!

All your bouquets of compliments or brickbats of critiques and criticisms are more than 'F****g' welcome...

Long Live JUSTICE !!! EQUALITY!!! and most of all...

FREEDOM OF F* * * * * g 'HINGLISH' SPEECH!
imamsiddique@hotmail.com

Originally posted by

Modd in Ohio

FUCK the LEFT.

Now THERE'S some intelligent discourse.

Yeah, the republican blogger are really chewing the carpet today. America has turned against their "dear leader" and they want to talk about anything except Bushboy's Fascism.

Originally posted by

John

This is not a matter that concern's the 1st Amendment. You should study your books more son and understand what the 1st Amendment really says.

With that said, it looks like the "Editorial" really FUCKED up contributions to the college, advertising, people's jobs, the prestige of the rag that published it and the school. McSwane has got to go. Journalistic integrity and leadership is certainly lacking. Perhaps he can get a job writing ads for the Escort Industry seeing he knows how the word Fuck should be used.

Way to go Fuck Heads. You really fucked yourselves. Fuck You.

Patriot76, what does this have to do with "Bush's Fascism"? What everyone one of us is saying is that these students need read a bit and learn that their actions have consequences. Even you are free to spout your drivel and hide behind words that you can not support with intellectual discourse.

BTW I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat. I am an American.

What I find most distressing is that the far left and the far right can not have an intellectual discourse without resorting to name calling to support their positions. Patriot76, you would do you and your cause a world of good if you could just express yourself in a more intellectual manner. Peace.

Originally posted by

John

This is not a matter that concern's the 1st Amendment. You should study your books more son and understand what the 1st Amendment really says.

With that said, it looks like the "Editorial" really FUCKED up contributions to the college, advertising, people's jobs, the prestige of the rag that published it and the school. McSwane has got to go. Journalistic integrity and leadership is certainly lacking. Perhaps he can get a job writing ads for the Escort Industry seeing he knows how the word Fuck should be used.

Way to go Fuck Heads. You really fucked yourselves. Fuck You.

I've seen enough politicians & soldiers to know that, unfortunately, a certain percentage of them are delirious for war, which, in their minds, provides them an opportunity to prove their heroism & manhood. Bushboy is an exemplar of the politician chickensh*t, and you'll see numerous examples of chickensh*t soldiers taunting Iraqi children at http://www.liveleak.com/?ogr=1 It's not a problem only for the United States, or any one nation, but those who believe that German fascism was a unique phenomenon have no knowledge of human nature or world history. Sadly, American fascism has been on the march for many years, and finally seized hold of our government in the year 2000. Even Reagan, for all his faults and ignorance, was not a fascist -- the Decider is another story. There is no argument or logic that reaches the mind of these fascists because they want war with all their hearts. That's why this photograph captures their reasoning better than any rational analysis: http://wwwthepartyofthewidestance.blogspot.com/

Originally posted by

John

Everyone associated and with the creation and publishing of The Rocky Mountain Collegian editorial on page 4 of the paper Friday which read "Taser this ... F*** Bush." should be investigated by the Secret Service, FBI and whatever law ensforcement for threats againt the President and inciting sedition.

For all you brainiacs on the newspaper, sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power.

Fuck you.

Patriotic76, what does your fascination with Facism have to do with my comment below? I beleive laws were broken and this should be investigated. Your point is ...

BTW thanks for the picture link. It is illustriative of your intellectual capacity. The sophmoric humor would have made me laugh heartily if I was in 2nd grade.

Originally posted by

John

Everyone associated and with the creation and publishing of The Rocky Mountain Collegian editorial on page 4 of the paper Friday which read "Taser this ... F*** Bush." should be investigated by the Secret Service, FBI and whatever law ensforcement for threats againt the President and inciting sedition.

For all you brainiacs on the newspaper, sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power.

Fuck you.

Originally posted by

Shrew

First of all, freedom of speech is alive and well in the USA. Hell you even proved the freedom to be an ass is also very alive and well. What you don't seem to realize is that for every acton there is also going to be a reaction. Little college paper or Wall Street Journal. It doesn't matter. Lose your job, tough shit. Lose your ad income, tough shit. You execised your right to free speech and now people get to exercise their right to pull ads, question your maturity and wonder what your real motives are. Don't expect people to praise your actions when they were nothing more than an attention grab since you appear to have nothing constructive to say. Oh and using the term 'electocution" today is a little EXCESSIVE don't you think? No that's right, you are exercising your right to not think,,,

So instead of reading what he said you just scapegoat him- he stated that what was printed was excessive, that it was over the top, but instead you call HIM an idiot for posting an explanation not in defense of what was printed but to state that it wasn't a statement against our troops and other mindless assumptions made in response to the word fuck. Did you know that this particular student voted AGAINST printing the blurb that started all of this? Did you know that not all of the students on the Collegian staff agreed with what was done? And now ALL OF THEM have to pay the price for it. Not only do they have to lose funding and advertising but they have to put up with people like you treating them like crap for something they were not personally responsible for. Oh, but wait, you were exercising your right not to think.