Editor confronts low media attention to Gaza crisis
Abstract:
Former Al-Jazeera producer and current Editor-in-Chief of the Palestine Chronicle, Ramzy Baroud spoke Monday over the fast developing humanitarian crisis in Gaza and media negligence of the ongoing suffering of the Palestinian population.
Baroud, a published Palestinian-American journalist and author of its latest book, "The Second Palestinian Intifada: A Chronicle of a People's Struggle", shared his beliefs regarding what he called the biased portrayal of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in the media....
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EM
posted 4/29/08 @ 1:45 PM MST
It's sad to see ignorant college students subjected to these highly selected "facts." The Palestinians are instigating the violence in Gaza. Rocket attacs have continued unabated for years. Israel IS beseiged. Israel has no need to apologize for having more effective weapons.
If Palestinians want a solution they need to make compromises. Instead they elected Hamas.
If Palestinians want a solution they need to make compromises. Instead they elected Hamas.
Binyamin
posted 4/29/08 @ 10:09 PM MST
The guy is not telling you the whole story. He's simply twisting facts. While Gaza is totally dependent on the fuel supply from Israel, Hamas terrorists from Gaza attack fuel terminal on Gaza-Israeli border and kill two Israeli workers who work on suppling fuel to Gaza! They also shoot at the trucks on Palestinian side trying to get the fuel supplied from Israel. They confiscate the fuel supplied by Israel to Gaza, and use it for their terrorist activities, while preventing the Gaza population from receiving it. Then Hamas terrorists cry to the international community about evil Israel not providing fuel to Gaza. This is just one example. What he also fails to mention, is that Hamas was elected to be part of Palestinian government, and then it organized a coup in Gaza, taking over the power from the lawful Palestinian government. During this "small civil war", organized by Hamas, a couple hundred Palestinians have been killed. But why mention them if you can't blame Israel for their death?
We, Jews, also call Arabs our cousins, and we want to live in peace with them. But as long as Hamas controls Gasa and bombards Israeli cities with rockets on daily basis, there can be no peace. As long as Palestinian schools teach their children that the Jews are descendants of apes and pigs, there's no hope for peace in the future.
We, Jews, also call Arabs our cousins, and we want to live in peace with them. But as long as Hamas controls Gasa and bombards Israeli cities with rockets on daily basis, there can be no peace. As long as Palestinian schools teach their children that the Jews are descendants of apes and pigs, there's no hope for peace in the future.
Craig Hawley
posted 4/29/08 @ 10:58 PM MST
The terrorists and religious zealots are in heaven as they find more and more Liberal college kids to buy their load of crap PR campaign.
If you believe that then you probably want to rethink Hitler. I heard he was a freedom fighter. Just trying to make the world safe for the obvious master race from all those pesky inferior races.
Sort of like what the Arabs say about the Jews. The Arabs that speak that way about the Jews are just modern NAZIS. They kill Jews whenever they get a chance. They raise their kids to be homicidal , Jew hating animals. \
Just curious if they actually wanted peace , how do you turn off the hate you indoctrinated a child with for say 15 years when you decide the \war is over. Can't be done.
Every concession or attempt at appeasement with these animals has been met with rocket fire , dancing in the streets and suicide bombers as they proclaim they will not stop until Israel is pushed into the sea.
They just use young and idiotic Liberals to justify their cause , so they can operate more easily as they slowly continue to try to achieve their goal , ANOTHER HOLOCAUST.
If you believe that then you probably want to rethink Hitler. I heard he was a freedom fighter. Just trying to make the world safe for the obvious master race from all those pesky inferior races.
Sort of like what the Arabs say about the Jews. The Arabs that speak that way about the Jews are just modern NAZIS. They kill Jews whenever they get a chance. They raise their kids to be homicidal , Jew hating animals. \
Just curious if they actually wanted peace , how do you turn off the hate you indoctrinated a child with for say 15 years when you decide the \war is over. Can't be done.
Every concession or attempt at appeasement with these animals has been met with rocket fire , dancing in the streets and suicide bombers as they proclaim they will not stop until Israel is pushed into the sea.
They just use young and idiotic Liberals to justify their cause , so they can operate more easily as they slowly continue to try to achieve their goal , ANOTHER HOLOCAUST.
Ian
posted 4/30/08 @ 12:05 AM MST
Arabs aren't animals Craig. You know that.
Muslim Clerics State: The Jews Are the Descendants of Apes, Pigs
posted 4/30/08 @ 8:49 AM MST
Originally posted byCraig didn't write that all Arabs were animals, Ian. He's clearly not referring (for example) to sincere Arabs of goodwill who serve in the Israeli Knesset or the IDF.Ian
Ian sneered: "Arabs aren't animals Craig. You know that."
Craig correctly characterizes Arabs "that talk like that" (the "terrorists and religious zealots") as animals. Clearly, he's describing the jihadist Koranimals who teach their children what their unholy book states: "Jew are descendants of apes and pigs." (see above hyperlink)
Their unholy hate text does indeed indulge in racist ad hominem (which Ian apparently decries). Moreover, it is these jihadists who (in point of fact) willfully divest themselves of their humanity by targeting innocents for murder. It is only appropriate, therefore, to characterize them as animals.
And now, Ian, you know that.
Ian
posted 4/30/08 @ 9:00 PM MST
Originally posted byIan
Arabs aren't animals Craig. You know that.
I didn't sneer, I just don't think Craig actually believes all Arabs are animals. He strikes me as decent person who wouldn't hate a whole race of people.
Maybe he does.
Craig Hawley
posted 4/30/08 @ 12:27 AM MST
I consider anyone that teaches a five year old child to stand up in front of other five years old children and their parents and scream he can't wait to slit the throat of Jews animals.
I consider Jeffrey Dahmer an animal.
I consider those who took mentally retarded women strapped bombs on them and then told them where to walk as they detonated them animals.
I consider Hitler to be an Animal.
I consider those who slowly saw the head off of an innocent civilian because of some twisted belief to be barbaric animals.
By today's civilizations standards Barbarians were nothing more than animals. And I feel the examples I listed are examples of barbaric behavior that borders on animistic.
I consider Jeffrey Dahmer an animal.
I consider those who took mentally retarded women strapped bombs on them and then told them where to walk as they detonated them animals.
I consider Hitler to be an Animal.
I consider those who slowly saw the head off of an innocent civilian because of some twisted belief to be barbaric animals.
By today's civilizations standards Barbarians were nothing more than animals. And I feel the examples I listed are examples of barbaric behavior that borders on animistic.
Dhimmi Carter
posted 4/30/08 @ 9:02 AM MST
Indeed yes. And I'd include members of Hamas and it's willful apologists on that list. Dhimmi Carter has (for example) has devolved into some form of buck-toothed rodent.
Carter accomplished nothing. Even the Palestinians say he accomplished nothing. Hamas launched an attack the day before his recent meeting with Meshaal, and mocked him afterward by openly declaring they had no intent to recognize Israel and that any truce would be just a temporary cease fire.
Carter accomplished nothing. Even the Palestinians say he accomplished nothing. Hamas launched an attack the day before his recent meeting with Meshaal, and mocked him afterward by openly declaring they had no intent to recognize Israel and that any truce would be just a temporary cease fire.
Buck-toothed rodent
posted 4/30/08 @ 9:09 AM MST
Hyperlinked above is a classic depiction of Dhimmi Carter's spirit animal, tugging at his leg.
/enjoy
/enjoy
Craig Hawley
posted 4/30/08 @ 11:00 PM MST
I can assure you Ian I don't hate any one let alone an entire race of people.
I loathe and would like to see the kind of people i listed eliminated or incarcerated where they could never again commit the heinous acts they do.
Appeasement and weakness is something they prey on not respect.
Look at Hammas and all the others and how they laugh at Crater once he left.
How about Columbia University and the fiasco of Ahmadinejad. He holds a rally before leaving for Columbia chanting Death to America. This shows no respect for Columbia.
Then he goes there where the president of the university assures America , that he is going to take this terrorists down a peg or two. Instead he calls him names before he even speaks , which Ahmadinejad points out , taking all the wind out of the President's sails and leaving him and the University looking like Liberal morons on a freshman debate team.
He then goes back to Iran and holds another rally chanting death to America. He showed the world that he holds in contempt those who show weakness by inviting him to their school when he hates everything they stand for.
Tp put it in a Forrest Gump type easy to understand venachular . animals is is animals does. LOL!
If you act like an animal then I feel no guilt in comparing you to one and pointing out that when you act like that you lose your humanity and thus should not expect to be treated like a human being.
I loathe and would like to see the kind of people i listed eliminated or incarcerated where they could never again commit the heinous acts they do.
Appeasement and weakness is something they prey on not respect.
Look at Hammas and all the others and how they laugh at Crater once he left.
How about Columbia University and the fiasco of Ahmadinejad. He holds a rally before leaving for Columbia chanting Death to America. This shows no respect for Columbia.
Then he goes there where the president of the university assures America , that he is going to take this terrorists down a peg or two. Instead he calls him names before he even speaks , which Ahmadinejad points out , taking all the wind out of the President's sails and leaving him and the University looking like Liberal morons on a freshman debate team.
He then goes back to Iran and holds another rally chanting death to America. He showed the world that he holds in contempt those who show weakness by inviting him to their school when he hates everything they stand for.
Tp put it in a Forrest Gump type easy to understand venachular . animals is is animals does. LOL!
If you act like an animal then I feel no guilt in comparing you to one and pointing out that when you act like that you lose your humanity and thus should not expect to be treated like a human being.
basim
posted 5/02/08 @ 5:33 PM MST
I think when somebody steal your land from you as israeli people did then you have the right to resist the occupation by all means. This is how every country in this world got their freedom.
I am against killing everywhere. sorry for the millions of jews killed in Europe but they should not go to palestine to steal peoples' land!
I am against killing everywhere. sorry for the millions of jews killed in Europe but they should not go to palestine to steal peoples' land!
Craig Hawley
posted 5/02/08 @ 5:56 PM MST
Your wrong bassim you do not have the right to resist with any means necessary.
You have no right to kill innocent children who didn't steal anything from you.
Why is it the Palestinian people got kicked out of your fellow Arabs countries. Your people have been causing trouble for Arabs and Jews alike.
It is your thinking that will be your undoing. No one but you thinks it is OK to kill a baby because you think someone stole your land.
That is some sick and twisted thinking my friend.
But thank you for showing the people here that animal is a fitting moniker for people that think land theft justifies thousands of dead children that had nothing to do with the land theft.
YOU ARE SICK
You have no right to kill innocent children who didn't steal anything from you.
Why is it the Palestinian people got kicked out of your fellow Arabs countries. Your people have been causing trouble for Arabs and Jews alike.
It is your thinking that will be your undoing. No one but you thinks it is OK to kill a baby because you think someone stole your land.
That is some sick and twisted thinking my friend.
But thank you for showing the people here that animal is a fitting moniker for people that think land theft justifies thousands of dead children that had nothing to do with the land theft.
YOU ARE SICK
Basim
posted 5/02/08 @ 7:25 PM MST
Thanks Craig for your comment but I really recommend that you read carefully the comments here and dont use bad words.
Nothing justify killing innocent people, kids or adults or elders, nothing at all. I said in my previous comment and I repeat it again "I am against killing everywhere." which means that you can use all means but killing people. dont choose words from my comment and use them in your way.
Also, if you would like to see how many civilians especially kids, have been killed from each side, the palestinians and the israeli, please check it out and you will be shocked.
Thanks all.
Nothing justify killing innocent people, kids or adults or elders, nothing at all. I said in my previous comment and I repeat it again "I am against killing everywhere." which means that you can use all means but killing people. dont choose words from my comment and use them in your way.
Also, if you would like to see how many civilians especially kids, have been killed from each side, the palestinians and the israeli, please check it out and you will be shocked.
Thanks all.
Craig Hawley
posted 5/02/08 @ 7:41 PM MST
Perhaps you should have expounded on your post a little more and it would not have been so ambiguous.
If as you say you can use any means that are legal then I am in agreement with you.
If the Palestinians want to protest , boycott , and use legal means to address their grievances against Israel then that is fine with me.
I have read and do know how many children and adult have dies on both sides of the issue.
I however draw a different conclusion as to how these people died.
One side shoots a missile at a house of terrorists let's say and kills the children next door unintentionally. That is regrettable and a tragedy.
The other side targets women and children on p[purpose to get the most terror out of their attack.
To equate people who accidentally hit children with people that target children is ludicrous. They have no moral equivalence.
So I did not put words in your mouth , I just responded to what you said.
In future posts you might clarify when you use terms like ALL MEANS , and do not qualify that term.
Have a nice day and nice to dialogue with you.
If as you say you can use any means that are legal then I am in agreement with you.
If the Palestinians want to protest , boycott , and use legal means to address their grievances against Israel then that is fine with me.
I have read and do know how many children and adult have dies on both sides of the issue.
I however draw a different conclusion as to how these people died.
One side shoots a missile at a house of terrorists let's say and kills the children next door unintentionally. That is regrettable and a tragedy.
The other side targets women and children on p[purpose to get the most terror out of their attack.
To equate people who accidentally hit children with people that target children is ludicrous. They have no moral equivalence.
So I did not put words in your mouth , I just responded to what you said.
In future posts you might clarify when you use terms like ALL MEANS , and do not qualify that term.
Have a nice day and nice to dialogue with you.
Craig Hawley
posted 5/03/08 @ 8:25 PM MST
Great point EM. I know every time I want to make the world a better place I go out and vote in a terrorists organization.
After all when you are trying to negotiate with Israel for peace , it just makes common sense you would vote in a organization that refuses to even acknowledge Israel's right to exist and has said it's reason for existing is to push every Israeli into the sea.
Everything the Palestinian have done says we don't want peace.
Give them land they attack. Give them money for food they starve their own people and buy rockets.
Time to stop giving and start fighting in earnest until they really do want peace.
Why would they vote for peace when the world stands by condemning Israel and allowing the Palestinians to kill civilians at will.
After all when you are trying to negotiate with Israel for peace , it just makes common sense you would vote in a organization that refuses to even acknowledge Israel's right to exist and has said it's reason for existing is to push every Israeli into the sea.
Everything the Palestinian have done says we don't want peace.
Give them land they attack. Give them money for food they starve their own people and buy rockets.
Time to stop giving and start fighting in earnest until they really do want peace.
Why would they vote for peace when the world stands by condemning Israel and allowing the Palestinians to kill civilians at will.
Craig Hawley
posted 5/04/08 @ 12:31 AM MST
Another opinion on the anonymity of nicks and the agressive behavior they promote.
Another explanation locates the problem in the effect of the medium on the sender rather than on the recipient. It is argued that the anonymity of the medium disinhibits correspondents, releasing profanity and other aggressive material which could be suppressed in circumstances of more obvious social control. Writers would thus dare to include in their messages offensive content that they would never have included in the past or would only have spoken aloud, in informal social circumstances.
Yet another approach focuses on cultural factors: it is argued that the subculture of hackers, computer hobbyists, and computer professionals in industry and the universities fosters anti-establishment values and behaviour with a resultant blurring of conventional lines between public and private domains and between work and play. These trends, in turn, may encourage uninhibited behaviour. Thus, persons not belonging to this subculture who are socialized into the practices now crystallizing in CMC may be encouraged to behave more aggressively than they would in pre-CMC forms of written communication
Another explanation locates the problem in the effect of the medium on the sender rather than on the recipient. It is argued that the anonymity of the medium disinhibits correspondents, releasing profanity and other aggressive material which could be suppressed in circumstances of more obvious social control. Writers would thus dare to include in their messages offensive content that they would never have included in the past or would only have spoken aloud, in informal social circumstances.
Yet another approach focuses on cultural factors: it is argued that the subculture of hackers, computer hobbyists, and computer professionals in industry and the universities fosters anti-establishment values and behaviour with a resultant blurring of conventional lines between public and private domains and between work and play. These trends, in turn, may encourage uninhibited behaviour. Thus, persons not belonging to this subculture who are socialized into the practices now crystallizing in CMC may be encouraged to behave more aggressively than they would in pre-CMC forms of written communication
Sari S
posted 5/07/08 @ 12:27 PM MST
To all people that claimed that the Palestinians don't want peace.
The Palestinians demands are very clear. They want a state within the 1967 borders (only 22% of the historical Palestine), which means the West Bank and the Gaza Strip (including East Jerusalem), with no settlements inside the West Bank, and a just solution to the refugee problem. This has been clearly declared in the Arabs peace plan.
On the other side, the Israelies are only offering about half of the West Bank. That half is also cut into pieces, with no give up on any part of East Jerusalem and no control over borders. They only want the Palestinians to have a non-viable state; a state that will never survive except with the support of Israel. The forien minister of Israel said once that the 1967 borders are old and we should not talk about it.
I'm telling everybody that no Palestinian leader will accept anything less than that (the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, East Jerusalem, and a solution to the refugee problem)
Did you know that there are about 5 million refugees that still live in refugee camps from 1948 till now. When they were kicked out of their villages, they were a million. What should we do with those? If the Palestians say that they are willing to give their right of return in exchange of an independent state, don't you consider this as a big sacrifice.
Certainly I'm not with throwing these helpless and aimless rockets to Israel.
The Palestinians demands are very clear. They want a state within the 1967 borders (only 22% of the historical Palestine), which means the West Bank and the Gaza Strip (including East Jerusalem), with no settlements inside the West Bank, and a just solution to the refugee problem. This has been clearly declared in the Arabs peace plan.
On the other side, the Israelies are only offering about half of the West Bank. That half is also cut into pieces, with no give up on any part of East Jerusalem and no control over borders. They only want the Palestinians to have a non-viable state; a state that will never survive except with the support of Israel. The forien minister of Israel said once that the 1967 borders are old and we should not talk about it.
I'm telling everybody that no Palestinian leader will accept anything less than that (the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, East Jerusalem, and a solution to the refugee problem)
Did you know that there are about 5 million refugees that still live in refugee camps from 1948 till now. When they were kicked out of their villages, they were a million. What should we do with those? If the Palestians say that they are willing to give their right of return in exchange of an independent state, don't you consider this as a big sacrifice.
Certainly I'm not with throwing these helpless and aimless rockets to Israel.
Craig Hawley
posted 5/07/08 @ 4:22 PM MST
Well get over it Israel is not going to nor should it return to the 1967 borders.
You also forget to point out that Palestinian refugees have been kicked out of other Arabs nations as trouble makers.
http://www.scienceleadership.org/drupal/files/YK%20english%20Benchmark.doc
Exactly what land did these Arabs steal from them?
How about Jewish refugees from Arab countries who have had their homes and land taken.
http://www.islam-watch.org/Letters/jew_refugees_from_arab_countries.htm
You also missed one glaring problem with giving in to Palestinian demands. They have not used diplomacy to achieve their goals. If they had perhaps one could argue that they should be rewarded for that.
They have used terror and a child knows that you can never reward terror or you invite much more of it.
If they got the borders they wanted , then others with grievances would say all we have to do is butcher enough civilians and we can get what we want to.
And since the Palestinians have been seen on TV teaching hate to five year olds , how do you turn these little suicide bombers off when you win. YOU CAN'T.
So these idiots have sabotaged and chance of peace ever with their own tactics.
Just look at the split between Hamas and the rest of the Palestinians.
Abbas and the vast majority of Palestinians are willing to settle for peace without the 67 borders , and when they tried Hamas and the rest of the Palestinians refused to allow them to have peace.
So you are wrong about Palestinians not accepting anything except that border.
Now let's say that a magic wand is waved and the Palestinians and Israeli's stop fighting.
All is well until one of these brainwashed kids still hates the Jews so much he detonates himself considering those who are at peace with Israel as traitors.
You can see the problem
So nice try , but trying to say the Palestinians are just a poor misunderstood people who's homeland was stolen is just not true.
You also forget to point out that Palestinian refugees have been kicked out of other Arabs nations as trouble makers.
http://www.scienceleadership.org/drupal/files/YK%20english%20Benchmark.doc
Exactly what land did these Arabs steal from them?
How about Jewish refugees from Arab countries who have had their homes and land taken.
http://www.islam-watch.org/Letters/jew_refugees_from_arab_countries.htm
You also missed one glaring problem with giving in to Palestinian demands. They have not used diplomacy to achieve their goals. If they had perhaps one could argue that they should be rewarded for that.
They have used terror and a child knows that you can never reward terror or you invite much more of it.
If they got the borders they wanted , then others with grievances would say all we have to do is butcher enough civilians and we can get what we want to.
And since the Palestinians have been seen on TV teaching hate to five year olds , how do you turn these little suicide bombers off when you win. YOU CAN'T.
So these idiots have sabotaged and chance of peace ever with their own tactics.
Just look at the split between Hamas and the rest of the Palestinians.
Abbas and the vast majority of Palestinians are willing to settle for peace without the 67 borders , and when they tried Hamas and the rest of the Palestinians refused to allow them to have peace.
So you are wrong about Palestinians not accepting anything except that border.
Now let's say that a magic wand is waved and the Palestinians and Israeli's stop fighting.
All is well until one of these brainwashed kids still hates the Jews so much he detonates himself considering those who are at peace with Israel as traitors.
You can see the problem
So nice try , but trying to say the Palestinians are just a poor misunderstood people who's homeland was stolen is just not true.
Bahaa
posted 5/16/08 @ 1:39 AM MST
Originally posted byCraig Hawley
Well get over it Israel is not going to nor should it return to the 1967 borders.
You also forget to point out that Palestinian refugees have been kicked out of other Arabs nations as trouble makers.
http://www.scienceleadership.org/drupal/files/YK%20english%20Benchmark.doc
Exactly what land did these Arabs steal from them?
How about Jewish refugees from Arab countries who have had their homes and land taken.
http://www.islam-watch.org/Letters/jew_refugees_from_arab_countries.htm
You also missed one glaring problem with giving in to Palestinian demands. They have not used diplomacy to achieve their goals. If they had perhaps one could argue that they should be rewarded for that.
They have used terror and a child knows that you can never reward terror or you invite much more of it.
If they got the borders they wanted , then others with grievances would say all we have to do is butcher enough civilians and we can get what we want to.
And since the Palestinians have been seen on TV teaching hate to five year olds , how do you turn these little suicide bombers off when you win. YOU CAN'T.
So these idiots have sabotaged and chance of peace ever with their own tactics.
Just look at the split between Hamas and the rest of the Palestinians.
Abbas and the vast majority of Palestinians are willing to settle for peace without the 67 borders , and when they tried Hamas and the rest of the Palestinians refused to allow them to have peace.
So you are wrong about Palestinians not accepting anything except that border.
Now let's say that a magic wand is waved and the Palestinians and Israeli's stop fighting.
All is well until one of these brainwashed kids still hates the Jews so much he detonates himself considering those who are at peace with Israel as traitors.
You can see the problem
So nice try , but trying to say the Palestinians are just a poor misunderstood people who's homeland was stolen is just not true.
This is really funny how you explain everything in your way. who told you that Abbas and majority of palestinians accepted that solution???!!!!!
this is wrong. Please talk to any palestinian or listen to a balanced media or at least listen to Abbas speaches and you will know what you said is incorrect about him and about the majority of the palestinians.
The disagreement between Abbas and Hamas is that Abbas is looking for solutions by negotiation and Hamas is using power...That's it.
Abbas never said he accepts any solution without Jerusalem sir.
Thanks
Bahaa
posted 5/16/08 @ 1:49 AM MST
Palestinians are asking for 1967 borders which is less than 1/4th of their original land (Palesine). That is it. Thanks
What Really Happened...
posted 5/18/08 @ 10:36 AM MST
Originally posted byWRONG! That is not "it." The Hamas charter demands all of Israel "from the river to the sea".Bahaa
Terrorist apologist spit: "Palestinians are asking for 1967 borders which is less than 1/4th of their original land (Palesine). That is it."
Moreover, Arabs have a legitimate state called Arab Palestine (Trans-Jordan) which remains the Arab portion of the UN partition. Arabs are NOT entitled to Judea nor Samaria nor Gaza-- and NEVER holy Jerusalem, the eternal capital of Israel.
The Arab "refugees" (this made-up "Palestinian" people) remains outcastes by virtue of their having fled the invading Arab armies to join Israel's genocidal enemies during 3 successive wars. Conversely, Arab Israelis of good will who stayed are embraced as citizens and serve (often heroically) in the IDF and Knesset.
The fact that Hamas terrorism has now succeeded in rendering Gaza "Jueden-frie" (Jew free) makes obvious that Arab demands for additional concessions are merely genocidial beligerance on stilts.
Arabs have lost every war they've launched against Israel. It is past time these Islamo-fascist jihadist overlords stopped butchering Arab and Israeli innocents alike and took some responsibility for their displaced "refugee" cousins. But I suspect Arabs won't learn this terrible lesson until they actually experience the kind of utter defeat that FDR and Truman inflicted upon Shinto-fascism-- without pity or remorse. Hamas/Hezbollah apologists in the West had better wake up and stop giving aid and comfort to these Koranimals-- before it is too late.
Anyone interested in the facts underlying the Arab's illegitimate demands for Israeli land and Israel's total destruction can click on the above hyperlink.
Craig Hawley
posted 5/18/08 @ 11:50 AM MST
Well Said " what really happened ".
Originally posted byBahaa
Palestinians are asking for 1967 borders which is less than 1/4th of their original land (Palesine). That is it. Thanks
Craig Hawley
posted 5/16/08 @ 2:02 AM MST
If anyone thinks Israel is going to give Jerusalem back then we all might as well just start WWIII now because it ain't gonna happen without it.
I agree with your point that Abbas offers the only hope of peace , while Hammas insures the Palestinians destruction.
Remember that the second a nation with a military has had enough and decides to adopt terror tactics then terrorists are finished.
If they did the same thing that Hammas and Hezbollah do then they could just kill a thousand women and children for every one of theirs that is killed.
How long do you think terror organizations would enjoy public support if every time they used a suicide bombers 10,000 of their people were evaporated.
Just take a look at Iran. IT has a philosophy that three nukes launched and detonated in the three largest cities in Israel will destroy the country.
Now Israel has approximately 300 nukes. If Iran launches , Israel will turn Iran into a parking lot.
With other nuclear nations perhaps jumping in the beginnings of WWIII are quite possible if not probable.
And what a coincidence that the war would be fought exactly where the Bible said it would be.
Armageddon anyone.
And the quickest way to get there is to keep negotiating like the European Union and UN have been and accomplishing nothing.
If we do not strike and wipe out Iran's nuclear program , they will get nukes and use them.
Say goodbye to a big chunk of the middle east.
Anyway it was a pleasure to dialogue with you.
I agree with your point that Abbas offers the only hope of peace , while Hammas insures the Palestinians destruction.
Remember that the second a nation with a military has had enough and decides to adopt terror tactics then terrorists are finished.
If they did the same thing that Hammas and Hezbollah do then they could just kill a thousand women and children for every one of theirs that is killed.
How long do you think terror organizations would enjoy public support if every time they used a suicide bombers 10,000 of their people were evaporated.
Just take a look at Iran. IT has a philosophy that three nukes launched and detonated in the three largest cities in Israel will destroy the country.
Now Israel has approximately 300 nukes. If Iran launches , Israel will turn Iran into a parking lot.
With other nuclear nations perhaps jumping in the beginnings of WWIII are quite possible if not probable.
And what a coincidence that the war would be fought exactly where the Bible said it would be.
Armageddon anyone.
And the quickest way to get there is to keep negotiating like the European Union and UN have been and accomplishing nothing.
If we do not strike and wipe out Iran's nuclear program , they will get nukes and use them.
Say goodbye to a big chunk of the middle east.
Anyway it was a pleasure to dialogue with you.
Craig Hawley
posted 5/16/08 @ 2:13 AM MST
Every scrap of land that has been conceded to the Palestinians has been met with rocket fire.
What kind of a compromise is either do as we say or we will kill you all.
And as far as the land belonging to Palestine , we can trace it back to whoever owned it before the Palestinians. Then I guess their ancestors should be given the land.
It is an old argument used by defeated peoples the world over.
If we go back far enough then I guess Adam and Eve owned it all. And since we are all descendents of them, we all have the same right to the land.
So technically I have as much right to the Palestinian lands as they do. LOL!
The bottom line is butchering women and children is unacceptable no matter what wrong has been done to you.
If you can prove someone is a murderer then yo might have some moral authority to go after them for justice.
But you never have the right to kill their children or friend that did nothing to you.
This is the way of the Palestinians and it makes them inhuman. How can they beg for human rights when they act like animals.
What kind of a compromise is either do as we say or we will kill you all.
And as far as the land belonging to Palestine , we can trace it back to whoever owned it before the Palestinians. Then I guess their ancestors should be given the land.
It is an old argument used by defeated peoples the world over.
If we go back far enough then I guess Adam and Eve owned it all. And since we are all descendents of them, we all have the same right to the land.
So technically I have as much right to the Palestinian lands as they do. LOL!
The bottom line is butchering women and children is unacceptable no matter what wrong has been done to you.
If you can prove someone is a murderer then yo might have some moral authority to go after them for justice.
But you never have the right to kill their children or friend that did nothing to you.
This is the way of the Palestinians and it makes them inhuman. How can they beg for human rights when they act like animals.
Bahaa
posted 5/16/08 @ 7:00 PM MST
Thanks for your comments, but I wonder why you use the word "animals" to describe a nation who owns the land and when there are bad people in that nation there are good people as well.
Please read the history. Go back before prophet Joseph moved to Egypt and before prophet Jacoub was born even and you will see that "Kan'anees" who are the origin of the palestinians were living there. Please everybody have a look to the history of that time in that land.
Palestine land has been given to Jews according to Belford promise of Britain in 1917, which means it is something occupied by force because it is given by a country who doesnt own the land to people who dont own the land as well.
Please, dont tell me that any country can take any land by force and then claim they have the right in it and if the owners of the land fight back then they are terrorists. I disagree that force should be used to take back your right and negotiations are the best way to take back your right, but at the same time I think before we blame the palestinians for using power, blame israel for occupying the land. I was wondering as well when somebody on this website mentions that "the only country in the middle east that women vote for elections is Israel!!!". What??
I am from Jordan and my Mom and my sisters vote for elections since 1988 and before that in other arabic countries women votes and we have women in parliament since 1990. even in palestine, in the last elections in 2006, women were voting!!!
I am not here to defend the system in my country or in our area but I really feel bad when the history is rewritten again to change the facts and make the victim as a murderer. please please please, before mention bad things about our countries check it from accurate sources and not from biased media. Thanks and have a nice vacation after the exams. It was a tough week.
Please read the history. Go back before prophet Joseph moved to Egypt and before prophet Jacoub was born even and you will see that "Kan'anees" who are the origin of the palestinians were living there. Please everybody have a look to the history of that time in that land.
Palestine land has been given to Jews according to Belford promise of Britain in 1917, which means it is something occupied by force because it is given by a country who doesnt own the land to people who dont own the land as well.
Please, dont tell me that any country can take any land by force and then claim they have the right in it and if the owners of the land fight back then they are terrorists. I disagree that force should be used to take back your right and negotiations are the best way to take back your right, but at the same time I think before we blame the palestinians for using power, blame israel for occupying the land. I was wondering as well when somebody on this website mentions that "the only country in the middle east that women vote for elections is Israel!!!". What??
I am from Jordan and my Mom and my sisters vote for elections since 1988 and before that in other arabic countries women votes and we have women in parliament since 1990. even in palestine, in the last elections in 2006, women were voting!!!
I am not here to defend the system in my country or in our area but I really feel bad when the history is rewritten again to change the facts and make the victim as a murderer. please please please, before mention bad things about our countries check it from accurate sources and not from biased media. Thanks and have a nice vacation after the exams. It was a tough week.
What Really Happened...
posted 5/18/08 @ 10:46 AM MST
Originally posted byEven brainwashed Jordanians know the history well enough to concede that Arabs have a legitimate state called Arab Palestine (aka, Trans-Jordan) which remains the Arab portion of the UN partition. Arabs have no legitimate claim to Judea nor Samaria nor Gaza-- and NEVER holy Jerusalem, the eternal capital of Israel.Bahaa
Jordanian taqiyalope lied: "I really feel bad when the history is rewritten again to change the facts and make the victim as a murderer."
These Arab "refugees" (your made-up "Palestinian" people) only remain outcastes by virtue of their having fled the invading Arab armies (including Jordan) to join Israel's genocidal enemies during 3 successive wars. Conversely, Arab Israelis of good-will who stayed behind were embraced as citizens and serve (often heroically) in the IDF and Knesset.
The fact that Hamas terrorism has now succeeded in rendering Gaza "Jueden-frie" (Jew free) makes obvious that Arab demands for additional concessions are merely genocidial beligerance on stilts.
Arabs have lost every genocidal war they've launched against Israel. It is past time your Islamo-fascist/jihadist overlords stopped butchering Arab and Israeli innocents alike and took some responsibility for their displaced "refugee" cousins. But I suspect Arabs won't learn this terrible lesson until they actually experience the kind of utter defeat that FDR and Truman inflicted upon Shinto-fascism-- without pity or remorse. Hamas/Hezbollah apologists in the West had better wake up and stop giving aid and comfort to these Koranimals-- before it is too late.
Anyone interested in the facts underlying the Arab's illegitimate demands for Israeli land and Israel's total destruction can click on the above hyperlink.
Lawrence Auster
posted 5/19/08 @ 7:58 AM MST
Originally posted byArab claims to sovereignty based on inherited historical control will not stand up to historical scrutiny. Arabs are not native to Palestine, but are native to ARABIA-- which is called Arab-ia for the breathtakingly simple reason that it is the historic home of the Arabs.Bahaa
taqiya vendor whined: Please read the history. Go back before prophet Joseph moved to Egypt and before prophet Jacoub was born even and you will see that "Kan'anees" who are the origin of the palestinians were living there.
The terroritories comprising all other "Arab" states outside the Arabian peninsula-- including Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and Algeria, as well as the entity now formally under the Palestinian Authority-- were originally non-Arab nations that were conquered by Muslim Arabs when they spread out from the Arabian peninsula in the first great wave of jihad in the 7th century, defeating, mass-murdering, enslaving, dispossessing, converting, or reducing to the lowly status of dhimmitude millions of Christians and Jews and destroying their ancient and flourishing civilizations. Prior to being Christian, of course, these lands had even more ancient histories. Pharaonic Egypt, for example, was not an Arab country through its 3,000 year history.
The recent assertion by "Palestinian" Arabs that they're descended from the ancient Canaanites (whom the ancient Hebrews displaced) is absurdity on stilts in light of the archeological evidence. There is no record of the Canaanites surviving their destruction in ancient times. History records literally hundreds of ancient peoples that no longer exist (going back to Neanderthal in the region). The Arab claim to be descended from Canaanites is an invention that came after the 1964 founding of the Palestine Liberation Organization, the same crew who today deny that there was ever a Jewish temple in Jerusalem. Prior to 1964 there was no "Palestinian" people and no "Palestinian" claim to Palestine; the Arab nations who sought to overrun and destroy Israel in 1948 planned to divide up the territory amongst themselves. Let us also remember that prior to the founding of the state of Israel in 1948, the name "Palestinian" referred to the Jews of Palestine.
The Arabs have roiled the world for decades with their furious protest that their land has been "stolen" from them. One might take seriously such a statement if it came from a pacifist people such as the Tibetans, who had quietly inhabited their land for ages before it was seized by the Communist Chinese in 1950. The claim is laughable coming from the Arabs, who in the early Middle Ages conquered and reduced to slavery and penury ancient peoples and civilizations stretching from the borders of Persia to the Atlantic; who in 1947 rejected an Arab state in Palestine alongside a Jewish state and sought to obliterate the nascent Jewish state; who never called for a distinct Palestinian Arab state until the creation of the terrorist PLO in 1964--sixteen years after the founding of the state of Israel; and who to this moment continue to seek Israel's destruction, an object that would be enormously advanced by the creation of the Arab state they demand. The Arab claim to sovereign rights west of the Jordan is only humored today because of a fatal combination of world need for Arab oil, leftist Political Correctness that has cast the Israelis as "oppressors," and, of course, good old Jew-hatred.
Craig Hawley
posted 5/16/08 @ 8:50 PM MST
If the people of Palestine support the tactics of butchers and animals then they are complicit and deserve the same analogy.
Anyone who is a Palestinian that disagrees with this is not who I am talking about.
But where is the outrage. I see no demonstrations against Hamas , but I see these supposed nice people in huge shows of support for terror.
To these people I say you are animals.
Are you trying to tell me that Palestinians have owned this land since the creation of the planet. BS.
So you use past ownership when it suits you but deny whoever's ancestors owned the l;and before you the same courtesy. That makes you a hypocrite.
I also might add that all America watched as those supposedly good Palestinians danced in the streets along with a huge chunk of the Muslim world after 9/11.
Surely you are not going to lie and say this is not so. So I am supposed to forget that and just give them what ever they want thus justifying their animalistic tactics. Ludicrous.
You tout your women's voting , and that is great I like that. But let's get real. A huge portion of the Muslim world still treats women as cattle. These countries call people like you traitors to Islam and Infidels.
How about Saudi Arabia where recently a girl was raped and then she was beaten and jailed because she was asking for it according to this Muslim country.
Surely you are not going to deny the many atrocities committed for centuries ion the name of Allah.
Here watch the movie Fitna. It quotes your book and it is
accurate.http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3369102968312745410
Please answer why it is the Muslim communities around the world who are allowed to enter countries , then don't assimilate and cause trouble. I did nto get this from any news source I read about it every day. I see it on TV in living color.
The Dutch now wish they had never let Muslims into their country. They riot and cause problems in France and blow things and people up in Britain.
Name any country in the world that has accepted Muslims with open arms and you will see them wishing they had not.
This is a fact no matter how much you deny it.
I am sure you are a nice guy , and I have nothing against you or your family personally.
I know what Islam is doing around the world and I have a huge problem with it as does most of the world.
Anyone who is a Palestinian that disagrees with this is not who I am talking about.
But where is the outrage. I see no demonstrations against Hamas , but I see these supposed nice people in huge shows of support for terror.
To these people I say you are animals.
Are you trying to tell me that Palestinians have owned this land since the creation of the planet. BS.
So you use past ownership when it suits you but deny whoever's ancestors owned the l;and before you the same courtesy. That makes you a hypocrite.
I also might add that all America watched as those supposedly good Palestinians danced in the streets along with a huge chunk of the Muslim world after 9/11.
Surely you are not going to lie and say this is not so. So I am supposed to forget that and just give them what ever they want thus justifying their animalistic tactics. Ludicrous.
You tout your women's voting , and that is great I like that. But let's get real. A huge portion of the Muslim world still treats women as cattle. These countries call people like you traitors to Islam and Infidels.
How about Saudi Arabia where recently a girl was raped and then she was beaten and jailed because she was asking for it according to this Muslim country.
Surely you are not going to deny the many atrocities committed for centuries ion the name of Allah.
Here watch the movie Fitna. It quotes your book and it is
accurate.http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3369102968312745410
Please answer why it is the Muslim communities around the world who are allowed to enter countries , then don't assimilate and cause trouble. I did nto get this from any news source I read about it every day. I see it on TV in living color.
The Dutch now wish they had never let Muslims into their country. They riot and cause problems in France and blow things and people up in Britain.
Name any country in the world that has accepted Muslims with open arms and you will see them wishing they had not.
This is a fact no matter how much you deny it.
I am sure you are a nice guy , and I have nothing against you or your family personally.
I know what Islam is doing around the world and I have a huge problem with it as does most of the world.
craig hawley is a bigot
posted 5/20/08 @ 12:44 AM MST
Craig Hawley is morally bankrupt. He calls Muslims "animals," and advocates turning Iran into a parking lot. I can't believe you're talking about the atrocities committed in the name of Allah while completely blind to the atrocities committed in the name of the Zionist God. You talk about injustice in Muslim nations, while apparently ignorant of the injustice in your own. You've clearly been watching too much O'Reilly.
Jihad "atrocities" are Islamic!
posted 5/20/08 @ 7:58 AM MST
Originally posted byAren't Craig's terrorist Koranimals misinterpreting the Koran? That makes them apostates-- and NON-Muslim, right? Thus, according to reliable hadiths, they're merely "descendants of apes or pigs." In that sense, Craig is merely acknowledges Muslim scholarship on the matter.craig hawley is a bigot
idiotarian whined: "I can't believe you're talking about the atrocities committed in the name of Allah..."
Unless these Koranimals are not misinterpreting Islam-- in which case, I'd also like to point out how bigotted, ignorant and intolerant it is of you to condemn the spiritual commitment of these devout Muslim jihadists, who you allege commit "atrocities... in the name of Allah."
By what authority do you excommunicate (takfir) these devout Koranimals who perform jihad ("atrocities" in your parlance) to enforce sharia law?
The prerogative to issue apostacy fatwas is granted only to the Koranimals' dead false prophet (piss be upon him), or authoritative representatives of their mythical Ummah. Which are you invoking?
Has the Apartheid Kingdom of Saudi Arabia or the Muslim Brotherhood approved your anti-jihadist condemnations?
Don't remain an ignorant bigot your whole life, you idiotarian whiner.
Craig Hawley
posted 5/20/08 @ 9:39 AM MST
I see my pathetic friend from the Undies thread is sticking his head up here in an attempt to stop masturbating long enough to make a comment.
You say piss on the prophet and give me grief. Your inane comments don't change the facts.
Read some of the posts above and you will see the Palestinians have no claim to the land or anything else. They have been kicked out of every Arab country where they took sanctuary.
What I said about the Dutch and British is true. They have large Muslim populations and now wish they had never let them into their countries.
Your post is completely idiotic , and I notice that many have agreed with me on this thread yet you say nothing to them.
All one has to do is read the undie thread to see you are the same poor person afraid of the world now trying to expand to other threads.
You have once again proved you are obsessed with me. I am flattered but I already told you I am married and you should get a girlfriend , get laid and try to relieve some of that stress you are experiencing.
Leave world geopolitics to the adults that can make real comments on it not your stupid Koranimals drivel.
Yes I call any one that slits the throat of an innocent civilian , or blows up women and children an animal. I call anyone teaching five year olds to do the same an animal.
I guess you like these people or want them to be your buddies. Hey I have an idea why don't you go live with them. I am sure they would welcome an idiot like you.
All this sanctimonious garbage from an idiot that threatened to stab me in the head and steal my money. I guess that already makes you an animal also.
Back to your undie thread. I thought you said you were going to whip my butt on that thread. So you couldn't and now you are going back on your word.
You are a liar , a punk , a terrorist , a thief , and a moron. No doubt about it , your mother is right now wishing she had gotten an abortion.
Your Dad just mumbles something about not having any kids.
Yi Larka Bahout Kumucle Ha
LOL!
Anyone that wants to see what a violent and morally bankrupt person you are just go to the Undie thread and see. This is the person that said they would stab me in the head. And why. I use LOL!
That is all it took. This person is mentally unstable.
You say piss on the prophet and give me grief. Your inane comments don't change the facts.
Read some of the posts above and you will see the Palestinians have no claim to the land or anything else. They have been kicked out of every Arab country where they took sanctuary.
What I said about the Dutch and British is true. They have large Muslim populations and now wish they had never let them into their countries.
Your post is completely idiotic , and I notice that many have agreed with me on this thread yet you say nothing to them.
All one has to do is read the undie thread to see you are the same poor person afraid of the world now trying to expand to other threads.
You have once again proved you are obsessed with me. I am flattered but I already told you I am married and you should get a girlfriend , get laid and try to relieve some of that stress you are experiencing.
Leave world geopolitics to the adults that can make real comments on it not your stupid Koranimals drivel.
Yes I call any one that slits the throat of an innocent civilian , or blows up women and children an animal. I call anyone teaching five year olds to do the same an animal.
I guess you like these people or want them to be your buddies. Hey I have an idea why don't you go live with them. I am sure they would welcome an idiot like you.
All this sanctimonious garbage from an idiot that threatened to stab me in the head and steal my money. I guess that already makes you an animal also.
Back to your undie thread. I thought you said you were going to whip my butt on that thread. So you couldn't and now you are going back on your word.
You are a liar , a punk , a terrorist , a thief , and a moron. No doubt about it , your mother is right now wishing she had gotten an abortion.
Your Dad just mumbles something about not having any kids.
Yi Larka Bahout Kumucle Ha
LOL!
Anyone that wants to see what a violent and morally bankrupt person you are just go to the Undie thread and see. This is the person that said they would stab me in the head. And why. I use LOL!
That is all it took. This person is mentally unstable.
Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left
posted 5/20/08 @ 10:24 AM MST
Easy there, cowboy Craig. Don't let your spurs go jingling and jangling. Take breath and READ the reply to the undies idiotarian. It's NOT attacking you. It defends you by illustrating that bigot's absurdity.
Did you even bother clicking on the hyperlink?
Did you even bother clicking on the hyperlink?
Craig Hawley needs a blog
posted 5/20/08 @ 11:57 AM MST
Originally posted byCraig Hawley
I see my pathetic friend from the Undies thread is sticking his head up here in an attempt to stop masturbating long enough to make a comment.
...
Anyone that wants to see what a violent and morally bankrupt person you are just go to the Undie thread and see. This is the person that said they would stab me in the head. And why. I use LOL!
That is all it took. This person is mentally unstable.
Just setting the record straight.
Little 'ole me has been posting under the handle of "Craig Hawley needs a blog" in the underwear thread and elsewhere for quite some time now. That is the only handle I've been using, because I said that I would. I don't need to muddy the waters.
The undie thread is here.
http://www.collegian.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticleComments&ustory_id=18243091-5dea-4ba8-9367-e70c2cbfea44
Highlight the line and you can snag the URL to put in your browser. Please go there and vote "yeah or nay" to the idea of Craig putting his hate speech into his own blog instead of swamping us here.
And, Craigy-baby, sorry to disappoint, but you really should approach each "Craig Hawley..." flamer as unique individuals and address them at their words accordingly. (We have unique writing styles and tones.) Don't group us together, even though we are united in flaming your ignorance.
Yep, to that end, the "Craig Hawley..." who made statements about your head stabbing was not me, "Craig Hawley needs a blog." For that matter, when I read it, it wasn't as threatening as you have subsequently and repeatedly hyped it up to be. You're just paranoid from smoking too much pot.
On the other hand, we do know a LOT about you. Your paranoia that someone might make sport of tweaking with you where you live or where you do your banking might have some merit. But because this wealth of information is available to the WORLD WIDE WEB today (and in the digital archives for years to come), the risk to you will be ongoing for years and could come from ANYWHERE or ANYONE. You can rule me out as a suspect, though. I'm just a well-meaning messenger and will for sure have an alibi.
FTR, I do agree with the statement that "Craig Hawley is a bigot" and other flames.
Finally, we have plenty of evidence with regards to who is mentally unstable. Which is why we've been encouraging him -- subtly and not-so-subtly -- to cash in on his craziness with his own blog... ELSEWHERE, not here.
Craig Hawley
posted 5/20/08 @ 10:06 AM MST
Been online telling the thousands of CSU students that you said anyone on Facebook using their real names is an idiot.
Gee according to them you are just an idiot with no friends. Most of them think like me that you are just one sacred little boy changing nicks in a desperate attempt to create imaginary friends.
You probably play a lot of role playing fantasy games.
When you trashed me , you just look obsessed and stupid. But now you have trashed a huge portion of the campus. Do you have any idea how many CSU students have a MySpace and Facebook page.
You just insulted every one of them in your inane attempt to get at me. You are the dumbest person I have ever seen.
Is there anyone else at CSU you would like to insult. Perhaps the professors, or some other groups of students you have not already insulted.
As I said before every time you open your mouth you alienate your self and further marginalize your idiotic opinions.
Come on you can do it. Open that big mouth and insult another group of your peers.
I happen to think they are a pretty smart and engaging group of young adults ( with the exception of your lame butt ). I enjoy dialoguing with them on Facebook and MySpace.
Most of my MySpace page is bands. I have met some really talented people there. Of course you would cut these pages down , because you have tried and failed to get any friends there.
If I had never had a MySpace page I would have never met these interesting and talented bands. I would have never seen them play and enjoyed their music.
So it is you my moronic anonymous poster that is limiting your life to masturbatory fantasies of a life.
Now back to your computer where you think you are somebody
Gee according to them you are just an idiot with no friends. Most of them think like me that you are just one sacred little boy changing nicks in a desperate attempt to create imaginary friends.
You probably play a lot of role playing fantasy games.
When you trashed me , you just look obsessed and stupid. But now you have trashed a huge portion of the campus. Do you have any idea how many CSU students have a MySpace and Facebook page.
You just insulted every one of them in your inane attempt to get at me. You are the dumbest person I have ever seen.
Is there anyone else at CSU you would like to insult. Perhaps the professors, or some other groups of students you have not already insulted.
As I said before every time you open your mouth you alienate your self and further marginalize your idiotic opinions.
Come on you can do it. Open that big mouth and insult another group of your peers.
I happen to think they are a pretty smart and engaging group of young adults ( with the exception of your lame butt ). I enjoy dialoguing with them on Facebook and MySpace.
Most of my MySpace page is bands. I have met some really talented people there. Of course you would cut these pages down , because you have tried and failed to get any friends there.
If I had never had a MySpace page I would have never met these interesting and talented bands. I would have never seen them play and enjoyed their music.
So it is you my moronic anonymous poster that is limiting your life to masturbatory fantasies of a life.
Now back to your computer where you think you are somebody
Craig Hawley
posted 5/20/08 @ 10:50 AM MST
Hi Liberal Fascist LOL Just kidding
Sorry my Bad. I noticed my mistake but my friend across the street showed up and I forgot all about it.
You have my apology.
But thank you for the correction.
You were not far off calling me a cowboy. My nickname among my friends for years has been Rambo. :)
Thanks again for jogging my memory.
Live Large
Craig
Sorry my Bad. I noticed my mistake but my friend across the street showed up and I forgot all about it.
You have my apology.
But thank you for the correction.
You were not far off calling me a cowboy. My nickname among my friends for years has been Rambo. :)
Thanks again for jogging my memory.
Live Large
Craig
Craig Hawley
posted 5/20/08 @ 3:18 PM MST
after all the lies you have told no one believes that you are using one nick.
Sorry nobody buys it.
You are without a doubt a nerd and geek and hiding behind some computer you built your self. LOL!
You have no game , and even if we believed each post was individual you still have nothing.
What you get under ten people to say they don't like me and I am supposed to care why? LMAO!
You waste your time and it is funny to see their are a few people stupid enough to join your inane game.
So far everything I have said you would do you did. You have been very obsequious to me and I appreciate.
I feel like a marionette watching you jump and react to my verbal jousts.
It's hilarious.
While you were thinking up your next post I was at my friends house watching his four year old son play Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater drums.
Now I know your tiny neanderthal brain can't even understand the concept of Dream Theaters music , but Google it and be amazed.
I am getting ready for about twenty friends to show up for the Celtics Game later so I'll let you get back to making a fool of your self.
Sorry nobody buys it.
You are without a doubt a nerd and geek and hiding behind some computer you built your self. LOL!
You have no game , and even if we believed each post was individual you still have nothing.
What you get under ten people to say they don't like me and I am supposed to care why? LMAO!
You waste your time and it is funny to see their are a few people stupid enough to join your inane game.
So far everything I have said you would do you did. You have been very obsequious to me and I appreciate.
I feel like a marionette watching you jump and react to my verbal jousts.
It's hilarious.
While you were thinking up your next post I was at my friends house watching his four year old son play Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater drums.
Now I know your tiny neanderthal brain can't even understand the concept of Dream Theaters music , but Google it and be amazed.
I am getting ready for about twenty friends to show up for the Celtics Game later so I'll let you get back to making a fool of your self.
*Sockpuppet*
posted 5/21/08 @ 8:18 AM MST
What Craig has there is commonly called a "Sockpuppet" (see hyperlink above).
They are sad, lonely, pathetic little trolls.
Poke it with the stick of reason and watch it squeal w/ fury.
They are sad, lonely, pathetic little trolls.
Poke it with the stick of reason and watch it squeal w/ fury.
Craig Hawley
posted 5/21/08 @ 9:06 AM MST
No a sockpuppet is what you use every night to fulfill your sexual fantasies.
You know that one sock you have standing in the corner of your dorm room.
Only you know whether your STICK ( lol ) is reasonable and whether it squeals with fury or pleasure.
You stick could be furious because you use that sockpuppet on it so much.
ROTFLLOL
You know that one sock you have standing in the corner of your dorm room.
Only you know whether your STICK ( lol ) is reasonable and whether it squeals with fury or pleasure.
You stick could be furious because you use that sockpuppet on it so much.
ROTFLLOL
Sockpuppet
posted 5/21/08 @ 1:00 PM MST
Easy there with the friendly fire, cowboy Craig. I'm simply pointing out that the troll you've taken by the virtual throat has a pedigree-- it's called a *sockpuppet*.
You're probably right about it's laundry habits-- although I don't think it's mom's basement qualifies as a "dorm."
You're probably right about it's laundry habits-- although I don't think it's mom's basement qualifies as a "dorm."
Craig Hawley
posted 5/21/08 @ 4:21 PM MST
My Bad I Aplogize!
Originally posted byCraig Hawley
No a sockpuppet is what you use every night to fulfill your sexual fantasies.
You know that one sock you have standing in the corner of your dorm room.
Only you know whether your STICK ( lol ) is reasonable and whether it squeals with fury or pleasure.
You stick could be furious because you use that sockpuppet on it so much.
ROTFLLOL
Craig Hawley
posted 5/21/08 @ 3:24 PM MST
Here is the truth about Muslims. Love to hear what you think about this.
Islam Is a System
Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components. Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called 'religious rights.'
When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to the 'reasonable' Muslim demands for their 'religious rights,' they also get the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone.
In fact, they may be featured in articles and films and stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
They will push for the introduction of halal food (clean by Islamic standards), thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply (United States).
France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).
Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burnings:
Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%
After 80% expect State-run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%
Of course, that's not the case. Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
'Before I was nine, I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidels. -- Leon Uris, 'The Haj'
It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.
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Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat. www.frontline.org.za/books_videos/sti.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/content/article/2008/04/28/AR2008042802560.html?hpid=moreheadlines This prison is majority Muslim -- as is virtually every house of incarceration in France (about 60-70% of all inmates in France's prison system are Muslim, though Muslims make up only about 12% of the country's population. The high % of Muslims in French prisons is a direct consequence of the failure of the people of France to stringently integrate minorities into their country, says a sociologist who has spent the past several years conducting research on Muslims in the French penal system. THE FRENCH PEOPLE HAVE EVEN CREATED THE 'NO GO' ZONES WHERE POLICE WON'T EVEN ENTER THE MUSLIM NEIGHBORHOODS.
Islam Is a System
Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components. Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called 'religious rights.'
When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to the 'reasonable' Muslim demands for their 'religious rights,' they also get the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone.
In fact, they may be featured in articles and films and stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
They will push for the introduction of halal food (clean by Islamic standards), thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply (United States).
France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).
Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burnings:
Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%
After 80% expect State-run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%
Of course, that's not the case. Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
'Before I was nine, I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidels. -- Leon Uris, 'The Haj'
It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.
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Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat. www.frontline.org.za/books_videos/sti.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/content/article/2008/04/28/AR2008042802560.html?hpid=moreheadlines This prison is majority Muslim -- as is virtually every house of incarceration in France (about 60-70% of all inmates in France's prison system are Muslim, though Muslims make up only about 12% of the country's population. The high % of Muslims in French prisons is a direct consequence of the failure of the people of France to stringently integrate minorities into their country, says a sociologist who has spent the past several years conducting research on Muslims in the French penal system. THE FRENCH PEOPLE HAVE EVEN CREATED THE 'NO GO' ZONES WHERE POLICE WON'T EVEN ENTER THE MUSLIM NEIGHBORHOODS.
Registered Independent
posted 5/21/08 @ 9:27 PM MST
Now those are some very interesting statistics, Mr. Hawley, in fact I'm astonished. I had no idea.
I think you ought to hold onto them and reprint them here again in the fall when the undergraduates come back.
All the students and the "Obamarama" people need to hear about this before they cast their votes.
I think you ought to hold onto them and reprint them here again in the fall when the undergraduates come back.
All the students and the "Obamarama" people need to hear about this before they cast their votes.
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posted 4/29/08 @ 9:07 AM MST
Particularly when the families of these teenagers receive $25,000 apiece for their "sacrifice".
Interesting, too, that Hamas always has plenty of funding for rockets to lob at Israeli civilian targets, but a mysterious lack of funding to assist with Palestinian poverty.
Perhaps it wasn't the wisest decision for the Palestinians to plunk themselves down on the border 40 years ago; and just continue to sit there with their hands out expecting the world to take care of them, ever since.
How Al Jazeera manages to present this as a sympathetic scenario is anybodies guess.
It must require a particular mind-set on the part of their readers. Something about an "Intifada", I believe.