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Protest erupts at Loveland Giuliani appearance
Abstract:
Sipping on a black cup of coffee and conversing with prospective constituents at a Loveland coffee shop, former mayor of New York City and presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani was surprised by a grassroots protest against his campaign, which is largely run on fuel from his outstanding performance after the 9/11 terrorist attacks....
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Craig Hawley
posted 11/11/07 @ 6:25 PM MST
I think most every one is beyond you nick.
Ron Paul. Man he is the most retarded candidate of the bunch. That guys elevator not only doesn't go to the top floor, I don't think he has ever had a top floor.
Ron Paul. Man he is the most retarded candidate of the bunch. That guys elevator not only doesn't go to the top floor, I don't think he has ever had a top floor.
Originally posted byNick
Rudy is piece of trash, criminal neocon. How anyone could support him is beyond me.
http://www.therealrudy.org
Ron Paul, on the other hand, is the most respectable candidate.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com
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posted 11/14/07 @ 11:48 AM MST
Ron Paul is the best candidate... It is really sad, that very few people talk about him :( .... he is so smart, he knowledgeable and pleasant person.
Jacob Sweeney
posted 11/10/07 @ 4:20 PM MST
I asked Rudy why the FBI was told to leave the AlC.I.Ada pilots alone when they were taking flight training in Florida. I also asked him if he has viewed the new "loose change final cut" narrated by charlie sheen. the video has 50 million views online. nobody shouted me down. We have video
Registered Independent
posted 11/11/07 @ 12:56 AM MST
Originally posted byJacob Sweeney
I asked Rudy why the FBI was told to leave the AlC.I.Ada pilots alone when they were takingC flight training in Florida. I also asked him if he has viewed the new "loose change final cut" narrated by charlie sheen. the video has 50 million views online. nobody shouted me down. We have video
Naturally Charlie Sheen would buy this nonsense. Because Charlie didn't even make it through high school. He was expelled from Santa Monica High in California for "poor grades and attendance".
Now there's a guy you want to listen to.
Registered Independent
posted 11/10/07 @ 8:19 PM MST
WACC is truly hilarious. Brought to you by the same nut jobs as the Greenpeace Party. Otherwise known as The Mad Tea Party, revisited.
Well I guess that's the chance a candidate takes when he drops by hicksville, USA.
Rudy could have run into a lot of wonderful, intelligent people there. (And most of them were.)
And then again he might run into some of the guys from "Deliverance", which is what happened Saturday with the WACC imbeciles.
I'm guessing the average I.Q. level of that group is about 75 to 85, no higher. Same mentally disadvantaged types as are attracted to the Klan. They found high school to be an insurmountable challenge (like Rosie O'Donnell did); and have resented all "govmint types" ever since. They have been "figuring things out themselves", unassisted, for a little bit too long now it appears.
If Colorado doesn't want to personify "Hee-Haw" to the world, better to initiate laughing these WACC clowns off the stage starting now, before the rest of the country hears their lunatic rantings and where they're coming from.
One of their candidates on the WACC website also states in all sincerity that "the Clintons played a role in Iran-Contra".
I'm no Clinton fan, but I laughed out loud at that one, too.
In their dim little minds that's fact, just as much as "Giuliani had prior knowledge of Sept. 11th."
Apparently WACC has gotten a hold of some of the Unabomber's lengthy written rantings; and droolingly interpreted them as being secret documents authored by the FBI.
Well I guess that's the chance a candidate takes when he drops by hicksville, USA.
Rudy could have run into a lot of wonderful, intelligent people there. (And most of them were.)
And then again he might run into some of the guys from "Deliverance", which is what happened Saturday with the WACC imbeciles.
I'm guessing the average I.Q. level of that group is about 75 to 85, no higher. Same mentally disadvantaged types as are attracted to the Klan. They found high school to be an insurmountable challenge (like Rosie O'Donnell did); and have resented all "govmint types" ever since. They have been "figuring things out themselves", unassisted, for a little bit too long now it appears.
If Colorado doesn't want to personify "Hee-Haw" to the world, better to initiate laughing these WACC clowns off the stage starting now, before the rest of the country hears their lunatic rantings and where they're coming from.
One of their candidates on the WACC website also states in all sincerity that "the Clintons played a role in Iran-Contra".
I'm no Clinton fan, but I laughed out loud at that one, too.
In their dim little minds that's fact, just as much as "Giuliani had prior knowledge of Sept. 11th."
Apparently WACC has gotten a hold of some of the Unabomber's lengthy written rantings; and droolingly interpreted them as being secret documents authored by the FBI.
Jacob Sweeney
posted 11/12/07 @ 12:32 AM MST
Originally posted byRegistered Independent
WACC is truly hilarious. Brought to you by the same nut jobs as the Greenpeace Party. Otherwise known as The Mad Tea Party, revisited.
Well I guess that's the chance a candidate takes when he drops by hicksville, USA.
Rudy could have run into a lot of wonderful, intelligent people there. (And most of them were.)
And then again he might run into some of the guys from "Deliverance", which is what happened Saturday with the WACC imbeciles.
I'm guessing the average I.Q. level of that group is about 75 to 85, no higher. Same mentally disadvantaged types as are attracted to the Klan. They found high school to be an insurmountable challenge (like Rosie O'Donnell did); and have resented all "govmint types" ever since. They have been "figuring things out themselves", unassisted, for a little bit too long now it appears.
If Colorado doesn't want to personify "Hee-Haw" to the world, better to initiate laughing these WACC clowns off the stage starting now, before the rest of the country hears their lunatic rantings and where they're coming from.
One of their candidates on the WACC website also states in all sincerity that "the Clintons played a role in Iran-Contra".
I'm no Clinton fan, but I laughed out loud at that one, too.
In their dim little minds that's fact, just as much as "Giuliani had prior knowledge of Sept. 11th."
Apparently WACC has gotten a hold of some of the Unabomber's lengthy written rantings; and droolingly interpreted them as being secret documents authored by the FBI.
University of Wales / Colorado State University Political Science BA and Regular Army Honorable Discharge here. I would align myself with Luke Radowski and wearechange.org without hesitation as of today. peace.
Craig Hawley
posted 11/11/07 @ 6:09 PM MST
First of all this business is a private one and as such can refuse service or entrance to any one they want. I think it is hilarious that the Collegian seems to have aligned itself with the nut jobs from WACC. Now I thought the Collegian was supposed to be so mainstream and unbiased. If so then why were you thrown out and not Bobby Carson.
I'll tell you why. Because you came to disrupt a meeting where people who actually want to hear Rudy speak were attending.
No offence , but they don't have to listen to your biased , asinine theories or questions. So you were uninvited , trespassers who when asked to vacate the premises whine. I am surprised one of you idiots didn't take on the cops and get tazed so you could shriek like a girl.
Good for Rudy for not answering your stupid questions and , good for the owner of the store and the people who invited Rudy and were there to hear him for kicking the WACC and Collegian out.
I guess Rudy's people could tell the Collegians Liberal propaganda machine a mile away.
And way to stand up and show some class for the conservatives at the event Mr. Carson.
I wonder why all the stories of censorship and assaults on speakers at supposed University's are from Liberals. They claim free speech is near and dear to their hearts ands then rush the stage when the minutemen tried to speak.
So these left nut jobs can think of many reasons why a murdering butcher , who has no gay people in his country according to him , should be able to speak at a university , but not the Minutemen.
The left are a bunch of hypocritical jack Ass's. Oh that is right just a few days back they advertised this fact with a 30 ft tribute to their stupidity.
So we should no be surprised when they show their complete lack of civility ,by showing up at events they are not wanted or invited on private land and trying to disrupt the event and showing the world there total lack of class.
Keep it up you Yahoo's , your the best part of my argument against you.
I'll tell you why. Because you came to disrupt a meeting where people who actually want to hear Rudy speak were attending.
No offence , but they don't have to listen to your biased , asinine theories or questions. So you were uninvited , trespassers who when asked to vacate the premises whine. I am surprised one of you idiots didn't take on the cops and get tazed so you could shriek like a girl.
Good for Rudy for not answering your stupid questions and , good for the owner of the store and the people who invited Rudy and were there to hear him for kicking the WACC and Collegian out.
I guess Rudy's people could tell the Collegians Liberal propaganda machine a mile away.
And way to stand up and show some class for the conservatives at the event Mr. Carson.
I wonder why all the stories of censorship and assaults on speakers at supposed University's are from Liberals. They claim free speech is near and dear to their hearts ands then rush the stage when the minutemen tried to speak.
So these left nut jobs can think of many reasons why a murdering butcher , who has no gay people in his country according to him , should be able to speak at a university , but not the Minutemen.
The left are a bunch of hypocritical jack Ass's. Oh that is right just a few days back they advertised this fact with a 30 ft tribute to their stupidity.
So we should no be surprised when they show their complete lack of civility ,by showing up at events they are not wanted or invited on private land and trying to disrupt the event and showing the world there total lack of class.
Keep it up you Yahoo's , your the best part of my argument against you.
Jacob Sweeney
posted 11/12/07 @ 12:39 AM MST
Originally posted byCraig Hawley
First of all this business is a private one and as such can refuse service or entrance to any one they want. I think it is hilarious that the Collegian seems to have aligned itself with the nut jobs from WACC. Now I thought the Collegian was supposed to be so mainstream and unbiased. If so then why were you thrown out and not Bobby Carson.
I'll tell you why. Because you came to disrupt a meeting where people who actually want to hear Rudy speak were attending.
No offence , but they don't have to listen to your biased , asinine theories or questions. So you were uninvited , trespassers who when asked to vacate the premises whine. I am surprised one of you idiots didn't take on the cops and get tazed so you could shriek like a girl.
Good for Rudy for not answering your stupid questions and , good for the owner of the store and the people who invited Rudy and were there to hear him for kicking the WACC and Collegian out.
I guess Rudy's people could tell the Collegians Liberal propaganda machine a mile away.
And way to stand up and show some class for the conservatives at the event Mr. Carson.
I wonder why all the stories of censorship and assaults on speakers at supposed University's are from Liberals. They claim free speech is near and dear to their hearts ands then rush the stage when the minutemen tried to speak.
So these left nut jobs can think of many reasons why a murdering butcher , who has no gay people in his country according to him , should be able to speak at a university , but not the Minutemen.
The left are a bunch of hypocritical jack Ass's. Oh that is right just a few days back they advertised this fact with a 30 ft tribute to their stupidity.
So we should no be surprised when they show their complete lack of civility ,by showing up at events they are not wanted or invited on private land and trying to disrupt the event and showing the world there total lack of class.
Keep it up you Yahoo's , your the best part of my argument against you.
WACC people that were there could very well be voting for Ron Paul, the only real conservative in the race. I like Kucinich a bit more but like Ron Paul a great deal as well. Rudy supporters are a bunch of fake conservative neo-con blue pill eaters according to the internet.
Craig Hawley
posted 11/12/07 @ 4:43 AM MST
ii is nice to know Jacob lets the internet do his thinking for him
Originally posted byCraig Hawley
First of all this business is a private one and as such can refuse service or entrance to any one they want. I think it is hilarious that the Collegian seems to have aligned itself with the nut jobs from WACC. Now I thought the Collegian was supposed to be so mainstream and unbiased. If so then why were you thrown out and not Bobby Carson.
I'll tell you why. Because you came to disrupt a meeting where people who actually want to hear Rudy speak were attending.
No offence , but they don't have to listen to your biased , asinine theories or questions. So you were uninvited , trespassers who when asked to vacate the premises whine. I am surprised one of you idiots didn't take on the cops and get tazed so you could shriek like a girl.
Good for Rudy for not answering your stupid questions and , good for the owner of the store and the people who invited Rudy and were there to hear him for kicking the WACC and Collegian out.
I guess Rudy's people could tell the Collegians Liberal propaganda machine a mile away.
And way to stand up and show some class for the conservatives at the event Mr. Carson.
I wonder why all the stories of censorship and assaults on speakers at supposed University's are from Liberals. They claim free speech is near and dear to their hearts ands then rush the stage when the minutemen tried to speak.
So these left nut jobs can think of many reasons why a murdering butcher , who has no gay people in his country according to him , should be able to speak at a university , but not the Minutemen.
The left are a bunch of hypocritical jack Ass's. Oh that is right just a few days back they advertised this fact with a 30 ft tribute to their stupidity.
So we should no be surprised when they show their complete lack of civility ,by showing up at events they are not wanted or invited on private land and trying to disrupt the event and showing the world there total lack of class.
Keep it up you Yahoo's , your the best part of my argument against you.
Craig Hawley
posted 11/12/07 @ 4:58 AM MST
Hey Jacob 2/10th Air Cav out of Fort Ord California here.
Thanks or your service. You earned the right to be wrong in America and you are. LOL
Thanks or your service. You earned the right to be wrong in America and you are. LOL
Originally posted byCraig Hawley
First of all this business is a private one and as such can refuse service or entrance to any one they want. I think it is hilarious that the Collegian seems to have aligned itself with the nut jobs from WACC. Now I thought the Collegian was supposed to be so mainstream and unbiased. If so then why were you thrown out and not Bobby Carson.
I'll tell you why. Because you came to disrupt a meeting where people who actually want to hear Rudy speak were attending.
No offence , but they don't have to listen to your biased , asinine theories or questions. So you were uninvited , trespassers who when asked to vacate the premises whine. I am surprised one of you idiots didn't take on the cops and get tazed so you could shriek like a girl.
Good for Rudy for not answering your stupid questions and , good for the owner of the store and the people who invited Rudy and were there to hear him for kicking the WACC and Collegian out.
I guess Rudy's people could tell the Collegians Liberal propaganda machine a mile away.
And way to stand up and show some class for the conservatives at the event Mr. Carson.
I wonder why all the stories of censorship and assaults on speakers at supposed University's are from Liberals. They claim free speech is near and dear to their hearts ands then rush the stage when the minutemen tried to speak.
So these left nut jobs can think of many reasons why a murdering butcher , who has no gay people in his country according to him , should be able to speak at a university , but not the Minutemen.
The left are a bunch of hypocritical jack Ass's. Oh that is right just a few days back they advertised this fact with a 30 ft tribute to their stupidity.
So we should no be surprised when they show their complete lack of civility ,by showing up at events they are not wanted or invited on private land and trying to disrupt the event and showing the world there total lack of class.
Keep it up you Yahoo's , your the best part of my argument against you.
Craig Hawley
posted 11/11/07 @ 7:07 PM MST
Sander Hicks is another whimpy Liberal. He was asked to leave and told not to trespass or he would be arrested. He was not silenced because of his probing questions ( oh the sarcasm ) , but because he chose to go where he was not invited or wanted on private property.
It is like McSwane desperately trying to invent the free speech issue even though all the conservatives constantly told him he had the right to say what he did and they were not making it an issue.
Sander Hicks is just a lowly trespasser and provocateur , and got what he deserved.
It is like McSwane desperately trying to invent the free speech issue even though all the conservatives constantly told him he had the right to say what he did and they were not making it an issue.
Sander Hicks is just a lowly trespasser and provocateur , and got what he deserved.
Nick
posted 11/12/07 @ 1:32 AM MST
Frankly, some people commenting here need grow up and bring something with just an iota of substance to the table. If you aren't capable of contributing something other than ad hominem attacks, then kindly shut the fuck up and head back over to your beloved foxnews.com. If you have something intelligent to submit, then I'm all ears (eyes, rather).
As for "We Are Change," their work in defense of the first responders and victims, whom the government doesn't give two shits about, is admirable, to say the least. I also tend to enjoy their blatant confrontations with David Rockefeller, Rudy, Norman Podhoretz (scumbag advisor for Rudy and "Godfather" of neoconservatism), the Clintons, and others.
As for Ron Paul, he is the only actual "conservative" in the race. He's also the only republican with enough brains to understand the complexity of our current foreign policy and its strategic and economic repercussions. Unlike most of our other myopic puppets running (both parties), Ron Paul voted against the war and against the patriot act. He's probably the only candidate that has actually ever read the constitution, and his voting record speaks for itself.
As for "We Are Change," their work in defense of the first responders and victims, whom the government doesn't give two shits about, is admirable, to say the least. I also tend to enjoy their blatant confrontations with David Rockefeller, Rudy, Norman Podhoretz (scumbag advisor for Rudy and "Godfather" of neoconservatism), the Clintons, and others.
As for Ron Paul, he is the only actual "conservative" in the race. He's also the only republican with enough brains to understand the complexity of our current foreign policy and its strategic and economic repercussions. Unlike most of our other myopic puppets running (both parties), Ron Paul voted against the war and against the patriot act. He's probably the only candidate that has actually ever read the constitution, and his voting record speaks for itself.
Craig Hawley
posted 11/12/07 @ 4:52 AM MST
Typical Nick. You tell others to grow up then curse and call people scumbags. The word Hypocrite comes to mind.
So until you an stop cursing like McSwane and calling names perhaps you are the one that should " shut up " as you so cleverly put it. LOL!
So until you an stop cursing like McSwane and calling names perhaps you are the one that should " shut up " as you so cleverly put it. LOL!
Nick
posted 11/12/07 @ 9:32 AM MST
I'm not sure what your big issue with cursing is, Craig. Somehow, you always manage to slip McSwane into every conversation.
Doesn't seem very hypocritical to me. I think I have good reason to call Norman Podhoretz a scumbag. If you've read anything he's written, you would know that he's one of the most extreme neoconservatives out there. I'm quite sure that nothing justifiably warrants such a title for Ron Paul or We Are Change.
Nevertheless, sometimes the only way to respond to fire is with fire.
Doesn't seem very hypocritical to me. I think I have good reason to call Norman Podhoretz a scumbag. If you've read anything he's written, you would know that he's one of the most extreme neoconservatives out there. I'm quite sure that nothing justifiably warrants such a title for Ron Paul or We Are Change.
Nevertheless, sometimes the only way to respond to fire is with fire.
Craig Hawley
posted 11/12/07 @ 12:05 PM MST
Thank you for making my point. Cursing is for weak minds that can't think of a way to drive home their point with a good argument. If McSwane did not drop the F bomb , and you did not help dumb down the debate with your cursing , then I could not bring it up. So it is you that opened the door.
As far as Ron Paul goes I watched the debates and have a friend that supports him. According to me and every news source I know he has lost every debate and is not even in the running in the poles. That is because he does not resonate with mainstream America.
But hey Nick even fringe elements need supporters so you go right ahead.
You said you don't understand why I think cursing is so bad. Let me turn that around on you and ask you why you think cursing is so good. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I know you did not mean to support cursing as some kind of good part of civilized , intellectual conversation , but by your statement you do exactly tat , and it makes you look ignorant.
At one time in America just about every one looked down on senseless cursing. And with people like you saying , aw what's the big deal it has become more and more mainstream. Second graders have cursed out my wife , who is a teacher for 27 years. Is that what you want? 7 year olds telling McSwane to F off.
Comedians who have no talent use cursing or cheap laughs. Some people think they are tougher when they curse. Other people use it to emphasize a point. Bottom line they are all lazy. Sure it takes a little more brain power and raises the discussion to a better level , but witty statements beat a curse word every time.
Even thought you and I disagree on just about every thing, and I tease you , you are an intelligent guy and know better than to resort to mindless expletives to make your point. I know sometimes it is frustrating , but it makes society a better place for us all.
So tell me there are a plethora of reasons that you disagree with me ,with out cursing. Remember right after McSwane pulled his stupid stunt , I started cursing every sentence , and I got more people upset with me from the left than the right.
As far as Ron Paul goes I watched the debates and have a friend that supports him. According to me and every news source I know he has lost every debate and is not even in the running in the poles. That is because he does not resonate with mainstream America.
But hey Nick even fringe elements need supporters so you go right ahead.
You said you don't understand why I think cursing is so bad. Let me turn that around on you and ask you why you think cursing is so good. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I know you did not mean to support cursing as some kind of good part of civilized , intellectual conversation , but by your statement you do exactly tat , and it makes you look ignorant.
At one time in America just about every one looked down on senseless cursing. And with people like you saying , aw what's the big deal it has become more and more mainstream. Second graders have cursed out my wife , who is a teacher for 27 years. Is that what you want? 7 year olds telling McSwane to F off.
Comedians who have no talent use cursing or cheap laughs. Some people think they are tougher when they curse. Other people use it to emphasize a point. Bottom line they are all lazy. Sure it takes a little more brain power and raises the discussion to a better level , but witty statements beat a curse word every time.
Even thought you and I disagree on just about every thing, and I tease you , you are an intelligent guy and know better than to resort to mindless expletives to make your point. I know sometimes it is frustrating , but it makes society a better place for us all.
So tell me there are a plethora of reasons that you disagree with me ,with out cursing. Remember right after McSwane pulled his stupid stunt , I started cursing every sentence , and I got more people upset with me from the left than the right.
Originally posted byNick
I'm not sure what your big issue with cursing is, Craig. Somehow, you always manage to slip McSwane into every conversation.
Doesn't seem very hypocritical to me. I think I have good reason to call Norman Podhoretz a scumbag. If you've read anything he's written, you would know that he's one of the most extreme neoconservatives out there. I'm quite sure that nothing justifiably warrants such a title for Ron Paul or We Are Change.
Nevertheless, sometimes the only way to respond to fire is with fire.
Registered Independent
posted 11/12/07 @ 11:35 AM MST
RESPONSE TO JACOB SWEENEY:
Generally modesty forbids, so remember you started it:
B.A., American History - Dean's List
The University of California at Santa Barbara
(one of the top 50 universities in the U.S.)
Juris Doctor Degree - Dean's List
Southwestern School of Law
Member, State Bar of California
(the toughest Bar Exam in the country, with a 50% pass rate)
Wicked sense of humor, courtesy of Intelligent Design and evolution
Generally modesty forbids, so remember you started it:
B.A., American History - Dean's List
The University of California at Santa Barbara
(one of the top 50 universities in the U.S.)
Juris Doctor Degree - Dean's List
Southwestern School of Law
Member, State Bar of California
(the toughest Bar Exam in the country, with a 50% pass rate)
Wicked sense of humor, courtesy of Intelligent Design and evolution
Craig Hawley
posted 11/12/07 @ 12:23 PM MST
Quite impressive , and you crack me up. Hey if I need a good Lawyer here in Los Angeles I will have to look you up. LOL!
Actally thelonger I live and more I know , the more I realize what is out there and how lttle I actually know. It is an epiphany of age. LOL!
I tested with an IQ of 150 in high school , and when I joined the Army they tested me and I was told I tested higher in all areas than any other recruit at the time. I think the top score in every category was 120. People usually tested high in certain areas and not others. The lowest score i recieved in any area was 117. The recruiter said he had not seen anyone test that high in 30 years as a recruiter. He gave me a huge book with every job in the Army and said pick one.
I have enjoyed your posts. Nice chatting with you.
One of the best books I ever read was by a guy that was no scholar. " How to win frends an influence people ", by Dale Carnegie. Awesome book.
Of course I like all my Dad's books. He wrote 17 and several made the Times best sellers list. He is quite a guy.
TTYL Registered Indy
Actally thelonger I live and more I know , the more I realize what is out there and how lttle I actually know. It is an epiphany of age. LOL!
I tested with an IQ of 150 in high school , and when I joined the Army they tested me and I was told I tested higher in all areas than any other recruit at the time. I think the top score in every category was 120. People usually tested high in certain areas and not others. The lowest score i recieved in any area was 117. The recruiter said he had not seen anyone test that high in 30 years as a recruiter. He gave me a huge book with every job in the Army and said pick one.
I have enjoyed your posts. Nice chatting with you.
One of the best books I ever read was by a guy that was no scholar. " How to win frends an influence people ", by Dale Carnegie. Awesome book.
Of course I like all my Dad's books. He wrote 17 and several made the Times best sellers list. He is quite a guy.
TTYL Registered Indy
Originally posted byRegistered Independent
RESPONSE TO JACOB SWEENEY:
Generally modesty forbids, so remember you started it:
B.A., American History - Dean's List
The University of California at Santa Barbara
(one of the top 50 universities in the U.S.)
Juris Doctor Degree - Dean's List
Southwestern School of Law
Member, State Bar of California
(the toughest Bar Exam in the country, with a 50% pass rate)
Wicked sense of humor, courtesy of Intelligent Design and evolution
Registered Independent
posted 11/12/07 @ 4:32 PM MST
RESPONSE TO MR HAWLEY:
Hawley the author is your father? Very impressive. Philosophy, education, etc. etc.. A wide variety of important writings, and fabulous reviews.
I agree that the more one lives the more one realizes one still has to learn.
That never does dawn upon some people, it appears.
Didn't you just love those special "test days" in high school. So much more fun and engaging than the teachers were.
Public school teachers are drawn almost entirely from the bottom 15% of college graduates. Which certainly explains a significant portion of the educational problem the country is in. (Now watch someone chime in with the reflexive mantra, "it's all Bush's fault".)
Don't you get a kick out of these naive types who are always trying to control the content of a website.
By telling people to "shut up" who do not take their patently absurd notions seriously.
Like that's ever going to happen.
But it is so amusing to watch them get that steamed.
__________________
P.S. Right now I'm reading the non-scholarly Garrison Keillor's latest, "Pontoon". He has a wonderfully subtle wit.
Hawley the author is your father? Very impressive. Philosophy, education, etc. etc.. A wide variety of important writings, and fabulous reviews.
I agree that the more one lives the more one realizes one still has to learn.
That never does dawn upon some people, it appears.
Didn't you just love those special "test days" in high school. So much more fun and engaging than the teachers were.
Public school teachers are drawn almost entirely from the bottom 15% of college graduates. Which certainly explains a significant portion of the educational problem the country is in. (Now watch someone chime in with the reflexive mantra, "it's all Bush's fault".)
Don't you get a kick out of these naive types who are always trying to control the content of a website.
By telling people to "shut up" who do not take their patently absurd notions seriously.
Like that's ever going to happen.
But it is so amusing to watch them get that steamed.
__________________
P.S. Right now I'm reading the non-scholarly Garrison Keillor's latest, "Pontoon". He has a wonderfully subtle wit.
Craig Hawley
posted 11/12/07 @ 5:10 PM MST
I agree with you Reg. Indy. It is amusing.
jacob sweeney
posted 11/14/07 @ 1:43 AM MST
Originally posted byCraig Hawley
I agree with you Reg. Indy. It is amusing.
cheerio ol chap. quite amusing, yes, yes, quite amusing, we are so smart.
-Peep this-
While you were memorizing the Matrix I was making out with french girls in Clyne Castle. Deans list in a history department at Santa Barbara isn't Everest. Same with the JD.
Craig Hawley
posted 11/14/07 @ 5:57 AM MST
I know this is going to come as a shock to you , but I have traveled the world and was born in the Himalayan mountains of India , so not impressed with your trip to the Clyne Castle.
As yes the intellectual argument continues from Jacob Sweeney. I guess he thinks making out with French Girls makes him smart.
Since you brought it up , I think girls with hairy armpits are a turn off. Since many European women don't shave their armpits just wondering which of you had the longest arm pit hair and did you help her braid hers. LOL!
Oh by the way ( like it matters , but out did open the door ) I dated a model in high school, And made out for the first time when I was 10.
So I am still not sure why you would bring up making out with a girl to counter my argument. The only thing I can think of that would prove is your not gay. LOL!
Another intellectual monumental moment brought to you by Jacob Sweeney.
As yes the intellectual argument continues from Jacob Sweeney. I guess he thinks making out with French Girls makes him smart.
Since you brought it up , I think girls with hairy armpits are a turn off. Since many European women don't shave their armpits just wondering which of you had the longest arm pit hair and did you help her braid hers. LOL!
Oh by the way ( like it matters , but out did open the door ) I dated a model in high school, And made out for the first time when I was 10.
So I am still not sure why you would bring up making out with a girl to counter my argument. The only thing I can think of that would prove is your not gay. LOL!
Another intellectual monumental moment brought to you by Jacob Sweeney.
Originally posted byCraig Hawley
I agree with you Reg. Indy. It is amusing.
Nick
posted 11/12/07 @ 7:08 PM MST
Craig, in my opinion, the only reason Ron Paul doesn't have as many supporters as some of the other candidates is simply because most people do not even know who he is. Why don't they know who he is? Because the media doesn't give them the opportunity. They tend to deliberately ignore him.
Nevertheless, support for Ron Paul has been exponentially increasing. He placed 4th in recent polls, with around 7%. On November 5th alone, he raised about 4.2 million dollars in donations from thousands of people. In addition, he receives more financial support from the military than any other republican candidate.
The fact that some call him a "fringe" candidate and an "extremist" is comical, considering he is a staunch constitutionalist. Is the constitution an extreme, fringe element of this republic we have inherited?
Furthermore, I don't see how you can say he loses every debate. Every online poll and text messaging poll that I've seen ranks him first (and no, this is not a result of "spam," because most of these are logged per IP address).
Let's not forget about Ron Paul putting Guiliani in his place in regard to foreign policy. The former head of the CIA's Bin Laden unit, Michael Sheuer, supports exactly what Ron Paul has been saying about terrorism. Guiliani's only response is "September 11th this," "9/11 that." Yet, he has no concept of the actual threat and why it has existed from the beginning.
As for cursing, I suppose I fundamentally disagree with you about semantics. Cursing can be avoided, but I find it necessary and iconoclastic at times. Language is supposed to accurately convey thoughts and emotions. Much of the time, you simply cannot give an emotion justice without cursing. Obviously, I don't think cursing should be present in scholarly or formal writing. In nonchalant discourse, such as this, or an article in a College newspaper, I'm not adverse to it. To say that cursing is intellectually and artistically indefensible is naive.
Doesn't surprise me though, you're a Christian :P (so is Ron Paul)
Nevertheless, support for Ron Paul has been exponentially increasing. He placed 4th in recent polls, with around 7%. On November 5th alone, he raised about 4.2 million dollars in donations from thousands of people. In addition, he receives more financial support from the military than any other republican candidate.
The fact that some call him a "fringe" candidate and an "extremist" is comical, considering he is a staunch constitutionalist. Is the constitution an extreme, fringe element of this republic we have inherited?
Furthermore, I don't see how you can say he loses every debate. Every online poll and text messaging poll that I've seen ranks him first (and no, this is not a result of "spam," because most of these are logged per IP address).
Let's not forget about Ron Paul putting Guiliani in his place in regard to foreign policy. The former head of the CIA's Bin Laden unit, Michael Sheuer, supports exactly what Ron Paul has been saying about terrorism. Guiliani's only response is "September 11th this," "9/11 that." Yet, he has no concept of the actual threat and why it has existed from the beginning.
As for cursing, I suppose I fundamentally disagree with you about semantics. Cursing can be avoided, but I find it necessary and iconoclastic at times. Language is supposed to accurately convey thoughts and emotions. Much of the time, you simply cannot give an emotion justice without cursing. Obviously, I don't think cursing should be present in scholarly or formal writing. In nonchalant discourse, such as this, or an article in a College newspaper, I'm not adverse to it. To say that cursing is intellectually and artistically indefensible is naive.
Doesn't surprise me though, you're a Christian :P (so is Ron Paul)
Craig Hawley
posted 11/12/07 @ 10:39 PM MST
Well God Bless you and Ron Paul Nick LOL!
Jacob Sweeney
posted 11/14/07 @ 1:28 AM MST
1/64 Armor/ Ft. Stewart. You are refering to the GT Score on the asvab. I went in when I was 17 graduating high school early with parental consent waivers to go active at age 17. Was going to go to law after graduating from CSU but deemed it a waste of time for the bigger and better projects I have going on right now. When I retire I might go though. Ron Paul is 3rd on Google searches right now his base does not have land line phones for the most part. He is raising a lot of money. Vegas says he has great odds right now and keep upgrading him. AFL-CIO organizing institute is hotter than the california bar. get with it.
Craig Hawley
posted 11/14/07 @ 5:36 AM MST
Curious what as your GT score.
Yes amusing. You cut down the California Bar and then quote Vegas as a source for Political projections.
Priceless. Yes all the top Political analyst this week have been quoting Vegas odds. LMAO!
Get with it indeed. Let me know when you get with it an I may consider following your lead.
Just curious what the Vegas odds are of you getting with it? I'm going to Vegas in December so I am sure you want to send me $10,000 to bet on Ron Paul. LOL!
Awaiting your check!
Yes amusing. You cut down the California Bar and then quote Vegas as a source for Political projections.
Priceless. Yes all the top Political analyst this week have been quoting Vegas odds. LMAO!
Get with it indeed. Let me know when you get with it an I may consider following your lead.
Just curious what the Vegas odds are of you getting with it? I'm going to Vegas in December so I am sure you want to send me $10,000 to bet on Ron Paul. LOL!
Awaiting your check!
Registered Independent
posted 11/14/07 @ 8:40 AM MST
RESPONSE TO JACOB SWEENEY:
You are apparently unaware that one cannot simply "go to law" as you put it.
There is a little barrier called the LSAT to get past first. An "objective" examination of one's proclivity towards rational thought. Since the legal profession is aware that undergraduate grades are too often handed out on a "subjective" basis. Which is apparently what happened in your case.
Law schools choose their candidates; one cannot just "choose" to attend.
If you think that "making out" is some type of achievement, that puts you on a mental par with every junior-high boy in the country. Congratulations.
And if the AFL-CIO considers your type of common "kiss and tell" to be a noteworthy distinction, that would certainly go far towards explaining the unfortunate rapid decline in the influence of unions over the past 20 years.
So you managed to slip past the first-round "gatekeeper" in life, the baccalaureate degree.
Well there is quite a crush at that first gate, so mistakes do occur.
But the gatekeepers become geometrically more alert and selective as one progresses up the chain. Judging from the evidence you have presented in your postings here, I certainly wouldn't count on that lucky error ever happening again, in your case, if I were you.
You are apparently unaware that one cannot simply "go to law" as you put it.
There is a little barrier called the LSAT to get past first. An "objective" examination of one's proclivity towards rational thought. Since the legal profession is aware that undergraduate grades are too often handed out on a "subjective" basis. Which is apparently what happened in your case.
Law schools choose their candidates; one cannot just "choose" to attend.
If you think that "making out" is some type of achievement, that puts you on a mental par with every junior-high boy in the country. Congratulations.
And if the AFL-CIO considers your type of common "kiss and tell" to be a noteworthy distinction, that would certainly go far towards explaining the unfortunate rapid decline in the influence of unions over the past 20 years.
So you managed to slip past the first-round "gatekeeper" in life, the baccalaureate degree.
Well there is quite a crush at that first gate, so mistakes do occur.
But the gatekeepers become geometrically more alert and selective as one progresses up the chain. Judging from the evidence you have presented in your postings here, I certainly wouldn't count on that lucky error ever happening again, in your case, if I were you.
Craig Hawley
posted 11/14/07 @ 9:14 AM MST
True Dat
Originally posted byRegistered Independent
RESPONSE TO JACOB SWEENEY:
You are apparently unaware that one cannot simply "go to law" as you put it.
There is a little barrier called the LSAT to get past first. An "objective" examination of one's proclivity towards rational thought. Since the legal profession is aware that undergraduate grades are too often handed out on a "subjective" basis. Which is apparently what happened in your case.
Law schools choose their candidates; one cannot just "choose" to attend.
If you think that "making out" is some type of achievement, that puts you on a mental par with every junior-high boy in the country. Congratulations.
And if the AFL-CIO considers your type of common "kiss and tell" to be a noteworthy distinction, that would certainly go far towards explaining the unfortunate rapid decline in the influence of unions over the past 20 years.
So you managed to slip past the first-round "gatekeeper" in life, the baccalaureate degree.
Well there is quite a crush at that first gate, so mistakes do occur.
But the gatekeepers become geometrically more alert and selective as one progresses up the chain. Judging from the evidence you have presented in your postings here, I certainly wouldn't count on that lucky error ever happening again, in your case, if I were you.
Jacob Sweeney
posted 11/14/07 @ 10:52 AM MST
You know the gatekeeper mentality well i'll give you that. Also, congrats on memorizing the LSAT questions that are the same year after year with minor linguistic alterations annually. Yet from your posts I feel a wanting of character for some reason. I only posted my educational stats because someone questioned them and said that the wearechange.org crowd had a hard time in high school so I had to rebuff your fellow gatekeeper with the truth. To the other veteran i'm sorry but my GT score was higher than your's with menial effort and I could of done anything in the US Army but I wanted to be a real soldier. When I went in the Army College Fund was only offered for Combat Arms because the miliraty was down sizing at the time under a democrat commander in cheif. The same would happen under Ron Paul. Are you fake repulicans or part of "Operation Mockingbird"? I can't figure it out.
Jacob Sweeney
posted 11/14/07 @ 11:13 AM MST
You two VIP's have an awful lot of time to write in my college newspaper. You have an awful lot of time on your hands. You might have seen my typo's in the previous post. It is due to the fact that I have better things to do that to go to University Newspapers that I never went to for trolling and exclaiming how academically efficient you were. I only checked this out because it was part of a political action I got to participate in and tell the blue pill crowd front runner what a neo-con criminal he is. Sander tried to ask him why he told Peter Jennings on 9/11/01 that he was told that the towers were going to come down before they actually did. Sander wanted to know how and where that previous intel got to Rudy. I asked Rudy how the WTC Building 7 fell (47 story soloman smith barney building hundreds of yards away) and why BBC world reported that Building 7 fell 30 minutes before it actually did. Google "Jane Standley BBC world building 7" to watch her report that WTC Building 7 collapsed to the ground while the building can still be seen standing behind her in the NYC skyline. You have the time to do so that much is certain
Jacob Sweeney
posted 11/14/07 @ 11:29 AM MST
B.A., American History - Dean's List
The University of California at Santa Barbara
(one of the top 50 universities in the U.S.)
Juris Doctor Degree - Dean's List
Southwestern School of Law
== Sorry but still very unimpressed. Southwestern does not choose it's students it is a total safety school where the students choose to go to southwestern.
-History major? = That would be like cheating your way through college for a person like myself. My friends are on the history channel though, not that that's saying much either. I could drag family into the mix but it's not worth it here. I don't have the desire or time to write in my college newspaper anymore. Google: Ron Paul.
The University of California at Santa Barbara
(one of the top 50 universities in the U.S.)
Juris Doctor Degree - Dean's List
Southwestern School of Law
== Sorry but still very unimpressed. Southwestern does not choose it's students it is a total safety school where the students choose to go to southwestern.
-History major? = That would be like cheating your way through college for a person like myself. My friends are on the history channel though, not that that's saying much either. I could drag family into the mix but it's not worth it here. I don't have the desire or time to write in my college newspaper anymore. Google: Ron Paul.
Craig Hawley
posted 11/14/07 @ 11:50 AM MST
First of all Jacob I am sorry you are jealous of the time I have to do what want with. Second I am sure my brothers in the Air Cav that are dying in Iraq supporting Infantry will be glad to know Jacob Sweeney doesn't consider them real soldiers.
By the way you mental midget it is guys like me in the Cav , you know the unreal soldiers, that give close air support to the Infantry you peon.
I just saw a real soldier from the Infantry break down in tears thanking a Predator Drone pilot for saving his platoon. They also give Intel in real time to ground troops to keep them out of ambushes and away from the enemy.
But I will tell my friends in the Infantry that all other unreal soldiers will now stop supporting them because Jacob Sweeney doesn't think we are real.
Those were your words Jacob. Only Infantry are real soldiers. Man you are truly pathetic and a legend in your own mind.
You are a disgrace to the uniform and a pinhead with delusions of your own grandeur. You have taken the debate to a new low and deserve to wallow in the mire with the likes of McSwane.
By the way you mental midget it is guys like me in the Cav , you know the unreal soldiers, that give close air support to the Infantry you peon.
I just saw a real soldier from the Infantry break down in tears thanking a Predator Drone pilot for saving his platoon. They also give Intel in real time to ground troops to keep them out of ambushes and away from the enemy.
But I will tell my friends in the Infantry that all other unreal soldiers will now stop supporting them because Jacob Sweeney doesn't think we are real.
Those were your words Jacob. Only Infantry are real soldiers. Man you are truly pathetic and a legend in your own mind.
You are a disgrace to the uniform and a pinhead with delusions of your own grandeur. You have taken the debate to a new low and deserve to wallow in the mire with the likes of McSwane.
jacob sweeney
posted 11/14/07 @ 12:02 PM MST
Originally posted byCraig Hawley
First of all Jacob I am sorry you are jealous of the time I have to do what want with. Second I am sure my brothers in the Air Cav that are dying in Iraq supporting Infantry will be glad to know Jacob Sweeney doesn't consider them real soldiers.
By the way you mental midget it is guys like me in the Cav , you know the unreal soldiers, that give close air support to the Infantry you peon.
I just saw a real soldier from the Infantry break down in tears thanking a Predator Drone pilot for saving his platoon. They also give Intel in real time to ground troops to keep them out of ambushes and away from the enemy.
But I will tell my friends in the Infantry that all other unreal soldiers will now stop supporting them because Jacob Sweeney doesn't think we are real.
Those were your words Jacob. Only Infantry are real soldiers. Man you are truly pathetic and a legend in your own mind.
You are a disgrace to the uniform and a pinhead with delusions of your own grandeur. You have taken the debate to a new low and deserve to wallow in the mire with the likes of McSwane.
HEY there genius don't get me twisted. I never thought or said you were not a real soldier. My comment about being a real soldier had nothing to do with other enlisted personnel. It was just my mindset when I enlisted is all. careful
Registered Independent
posted 11/14/07 @ 11:54 AM MST
RESPONSE TO JACOB SWEENEY:
Already took a run at those logic questions on the LSAT and ran smack into a wall, did you?
Why am I not surprised.
None of this ill-informed trivia you present serves to erase your original, completely irrational position of believing that Giuliani had "prior knowledge" of September 11th.
Nor does it erase your referencing of high-school dropout Charlie Sheen, as some indication that your position holds any merit.
But one can certainly see why you would attempt to cast the illumination of the inanity of your position, as somehow "wanting in character."
Considering that your own starting point in these postings was an attempted character assassination
of Giuliani.
Already took a run at those logic questions on the LSAT and ran smack into a wall, did you?
Why am I not surprised.
None of this ill-informed trivia you present serves to erase your original, completely irrational position of believing that Giuliani had "prior knowledge" of September 11th.
Nor does it erase your referencing of high-school dropout Charlie Sheen, as some indication that your position holds any merit.
But one can certainly see why you would attempt to cast the illumination of the inanity of your position, as somehow "wanting in character."
Considering that your own starting point in these postings was an attempted character assassination
of Giuliani.
Jacob Sweeney
posted 11/14/07 @ 11:56 AM MST
"Oh by the way ( like it matters , but out did open the door ) I dated a model in high school, And made out for the first time when I was 10."
- This is so funny!! Mr. Hawley you don't want to know what I was doing with Angela in Aurora, CO. when we were 6........ and as far as dating models? You don't want to know about that either. Back in High School??!! You did??!! Congrats!! I've sent clothing orders to 16 countries this year with my clothing label that I own. I swear I am done here. Let's not discuss travel either you should leave that alone too.
- This is so funny!! Mr. Hawley you don't want to know what I was doing with Angela in Aurora, CO. when we were 6........ and as far as dating models? You don't want to know about that either. Back in High School??!! You did??!! Congrats!! I've sent clothing orders to 16 countries this year with my clothing label that I own. I swear I am done here. Let's not discuss travel either you should leave that alone too.
Craig Hawley
posted 11/14/07 @ 12:18 PM MST
Wow clothing , changing the world are we Jacob. LOL! I'll remember you next time I put on a jock. LMAO!
And your right we didn't want to know about your original inane comment about kissing girls. We just thought we would respond in kind showing you the absurdity of your off point, lame, self engrandizing statement. I man what the hell does I was kissing girls in some castle have to do with the debate we were having. Are you so insecure in your masculinity you need to bring up a fact like that in a debate having nothing to do with it.
I mean what was our response supposed to be. Your a stud Jacob. LOL!
OK Jacob just so you don't go commit suicide with your obvious need for affirmation of your sexual prowess we will give in.
Hey every one Jacob is a stud. He is a real ladies man. Sort of the Bill Clinton of the military.
Guess mere mortals like me will just have to be satisfied with my wife of 15 years.
Jacob you are about as immature and juvenile as they come
And your right we didn't want to know about your original inane comment about kissing girls. We just thought we would respond in kind showing you the absurdity of your off point, lame, self engrandizing statement. I man what the hell does I was kissing girls in some castle have to do with the debate we were having. Are you so insecure in your masculinity you need to bring up a fact like that in a debate having nothing to do with it.
I mean what was our response supposed to be. Your a stud Jacob. LOL!
OK Jacob just so you don't go commit suicide with your obvious need for affirmation of your sexual prowess we will give in.
Hey every one Jacob is a stud. He is a real ladies man. Sort of the Bill Clinton of the military.
Guess mere mortals like me will just have to be satisfied with my wife of 15 years.
Jacob you are about as immature and juvenile as they come
jacob sweeney
posted 11/14/07 @ 12:50 PM MST
Originally posted byCraig Hawley
Wow clothing , changing the world are we Jacob. LOL! I'll remember you next time I put on a jock. LMAO!
And your right we didn't want to know about your original inane comment about kissing girls. We just thought we would respond in kind showing you the absurdity of your off point, lame, self engrandizing statement. I man what the hell does I was kissing girls in some castle have to do with the debate we were having. Are you so insecure in your masculinity you need to bring up a fact like that in a debate having nothing to do with it.
I mean what was our response supposed to be. Your a stud Jacob. LOL!
OK Jacob just so you don't go commit suicide with your obvious need for affirmation of your sexual prowess we will give in.
Hey every one Jacob is a stud. He is a real ladies man. Sort of the Bill Clinton of the military.
Guess mere mortals like me will just have to be satisfied with my wife of 15 years.
Jacob you are about as immature and juvenile as they come
It's not the chinese gear your wearing right now bud. I focus on Organic and made in downtown Los Angeles sweatshop free 50% of proceeds donated. There is a lot more to discuss but this is not the forum. If you put 10 large down on Ron Paul for me to be paid out to savethechildren.org I might let you smell something you dirty ol man.
Craig Hawley
posted 11/14/07 @ 1:05 PM MST
Now that was funny. See when you try you can be witty. Try more often. LOL!
You really crack me up with this one. Hey I am honest when I disagree with you so I will be honest when I think you are clever.
You really crack me up with this one. Hey I am honest when I disagree with you so I will be honest when I think you are clever.
Nick Mask
posted 11/14/07 @ 2:38 PM MST
How great it is to see self-proclaimed intellectuals beat each other back and forth using education, military service, and now relationships as cannon fodder!
I commend the three of you. Certainly with a combined IQ of 450 and ten degrees you're making great use of your knowledge and intelligence.
You know, instead of telling someone why we disagree with them on where they stand, we'll just insult and demean them. And if that doesn't work we'll just point out the fact that we're simply better than they are.
I salute all of you.
I commend the three of you. Certainly with a combined IQ of 450 and ten degrees you're making great use of your knowledge and intelligence.
You know, instead of telling someone why we disagree with them on where they stand, we'll just insult and demean them. And if that doesn't work we'll just point out the fact that we're simply better than they are.
I salute all of you.
Registered Independent
posted 11/14/07 @ 5:07 PM MST
Oh, look, the self-appointed hall monitor just showed up.
See, he has on that little tin foil hat.
I think he must be a representative of the Bush administration, belatedly arrived to scold us into a chilling effect on our 1st amendment right to free speech.
From the severe tone of his comment, it looks like we're all in for a sharp rap on the knuckles.
See, he has on that little tin foil hat.
I think he must be a representative of the Bush administration, belatedly arrived to scold us into a chilling effect on our 1st amendment right to free speech.
From the severe tone of his comment, it looks like we're all in for a sharp rap on the knuckles.
Craig Hawley
posted 11/14/07 @ 6:02 PM MST
Thanks nick always nice to get a salute. But just a your highness would do. LOL!Craig Hawley
Jacob Sweeney
posted 11/15/07 @ 4:49 AM MST
Hey Nick are you old or are you ready for the military draft for Iran? They won't want to hear about "only son" or whatever that stuff won't work. Hillary or Rudy- both want to pull the trigger Nick. Locked and Loaded?
Jacob Sweeney
posted 11/15/07 @ 4:58 AM MST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIy6MAdtOjA
OK, The URL shows a lot.
Many mainstream media articles had headlines that "Hundreds" "Several Hundred" "Over a couple hundred" ...........Well all that is BS. It was a sparce showing of support. WB2 news seems to be the worst claiming "a warm reception" watch the video and tell me that Loveland gave Rudy a warm reception.
I'm like the 4th to speak out inside the coffee shop asking Rdy if he's seen "Loose Change Final Cut yet" and telling him it has over 50 million views online and so on.......
Asking Rudy later why FBI was told to stop investigating the hijackers taking flight training in florida and not caring how to land
talking with some faker from the Ram Republic about Loose Change 3- what a poser- notice guiliani's main goon I've seen him in other video's give this guy the gangsta nod of encouragment of ignorance.
<5) asking Rudy how building 7 fell
many others putting in work
OK, The URL shows a lot.
Many mainstream media articles had headlines that "Hundreds" "Several Hundred" "Over a couple hundred" ...........Well all that is BS. It was a sparce showing of support. WB2 news seems to be the worst claiming "a warm reception" watch the video and tell me that Loveland gave Rudy a warm reception.
I'm like the 4th to speak out inside the coffee shop asking Rdy if he's seen "Loose Change Final Cut yet" and telling him it has over 50 million views online and so on.......
Asking Rudy later why FBI was told to stop investigating the hijackers taking flight training in florida and not caring how to land
talking with some faker from the Ram Republic about Loose Change 3- what a poser- notice guiliani's main goon I've seen him in other video's give this guy the gangsta nod of encouragment of ignorance.
<5) asking Rudy how building 7 fell
many others putting in work
Craig Hawley
posted 11/15/07 @ 7:53 AM MST
You are an arrogant fool Jacob. I guess Jacob thinks he is the only one capable of talking to Rudy. Maybe Rudy doesn't want to talk to you because you are a loon. I thought Rudy had the right to freedom of association.
And we all know that Hillary and the left allow total access to every one. Oh that's right Hillary does not even let people like Jacob to talk to her. She has plants in he audience ask her softball leading questions that her speech writers have made answers for. She might as well be a robot.
I know this will blow your mind Jacob , but perhaps Rudy thinks you are an idiot and didn't want to waste his time talking to conspiracy theory nuts. You should go talk to Rosie O'Donnell you two are peas in a pod.
I am sure Jacob hangs out all day talking to people like me that think he is an idiot. Of course not. But according to Jacob if you don't believe his convoluted theories and talk to him, ( wasting your time ) , he will brand you a coward unwilling to let him tell you his idiotic views.
Rudy called me Jacob and told me he was letting us conservatives here on the post take care of his light work. LOL! this LOL for Brent
And we all know that Hillary and the left allow total access to every one. Oh that's right Hillary does not even let people like Jacob to talk to her. She has plants in he audience ask her softball leading questions that her speech writers have made answers for. She might as well be a robot.
I know this will blow your mind Jacob , but perhaps Rudy thinks you are an idiot and didn't want to waste his time talking to conspiracy theory nuts. You should go talk to Rosie O'Donnell you two are peas in a pod.
I am sure Jacob hangs out all day talking to people like me that think he is an idiot. Of course not. But according to Jacob if you don't believe his convoluted theories and talk to him, ( wasting your time ) , he will brand you a coward unwilling to let him tell you his idiotic views.
Rudy called me Jacob and told me he was letting us conservatives here on the post take care of his light work. LOL! this LOL for Brent
jacob sweeney
posted 11/25/07 @ 2:11 PM MST
Originally posted byCraig Hawley
You are an arrogant fool Jacob. I guess Jacob thinks he is the only one capable of talking to Rudy. Maybe Rudy doesn't want to talk to you because you are a loon. I thought Rudy had the right to freedom of association.
And we all know that Hillary and the left allow total access to every one. Oh that's right Hillary does not even let people like Jacob to talk to her. She has plants in he audience ask her softball leading questions that her speech writers have made answers for. She might as well be a robot.
I know this will blow your mind Jacob , but perhaps Rudy thinks you are an idiot and didn't want to waste his time talking to conspiracy theory nuts. You should go talk to Rosie O'Donnell you two are peas in a pod.
I am sure Jacob hangs out all day talking to people like me that think he is an idiot. Of course not. But according to Jacob if you don't believe his convoluted theories and talk to him, ( wasting your time ) , he will brand you a coward unwilling to let him tell you his idiotic views.
Rudy called me Jacob and told me he was letting us conservatives here on the post take care of his light work. LOL! this LOL for Brent
Mr. Hawley, I believe that you are paid to write for the neo-con machine. The white house did not dispute that they had an 8 figure program paying people like yourself to write letters to the editor nationwide about topics such as this.
Craig Hawley
posted 11/25/07 @ 5:49 PM MST
First of all Jacob I hope you had a great Thanksgiving. My Dad is Mr. Hawley you can just call me Craig.
Wow this is paranoid even for you Jacob. I do not write for any one but my self. The article in the Ram Republic came from me.
But hey if you want to think I am part of a vast right wing conspiracy you go right ahead. After all we are all out to get you Jacob.
But the thing that really gets me mad is I have never heard of this program and could really use some of that 8 figure salary.
I have written Letters to the Editor in several papers. The New York Times ( admitted Left Propaganda rag ) and never published. I have written to the Los Angeles Daily News and been published over 150 times. And of course the Ram Republic.
Hey since you seem to know so much about this secret program Jacob , how do we know that you are not the one working for them. After all your arguments are so inane that perhaps you are the one working for Bush and trying to pretend to support the Left with such terrible arguments that you are actually helping the right. LOL!
Lastly , saying that the administration doesn't deny something is as far as you can get away from proving they are doing what they are not responding to. In my experience responding to people that make desperate, paranoid , insane accusations just serves to legitimize their idiocy.
So I know this will blow your mind Jacob ( apparently not that hard to do )but maybe the administration won't deny it because it is such an idiotic accusation.
I guess you ate to much Turkey. Using your logic , every nut case that doesn't get official denial from the government of their fantasies , can claim it is because it is true.
Not your best argument , but I will just chock it up to the fact you are still tripping on tryptophan.
Wow this is paranoid even for you Jacob. I do not write for any one but my self. The article in the Ram Republic came from me.
But hey if you want to think I am part of a vast right wing conspiracy you go right ahead. After all we are all out to get you Jacob.
But the thing that really gets me mad is I have never heard of this program and could really use some of that 8 figure salary.
I have written Letters to the Editor in several papers. The New York Times ( admitted Left Propaganda rag ) and never published. I have written to the Los Angeles Daily News and been published over 150 times. And of course the Ram Republic.
Hey since you seem to know so much about this secret program Jacob , how do we know that you are not the one working for them. After all your arguments are so inane that perhaps you are the one working for Bush and trying to pretend to support the Left with such terrible arguments that you are actually helping the right. LOL!
Lastly , saying that the administration doesn't deny something is as far as you can get away from proving they are doing what they are not responding to. In my experience responding to people that make desperate, paranoid , insane accusations just serves to legitimize their idiocy.
So I know this will blow your mind Jacob ( apparently not that hard to do )but maybe the administration won't deny it because it is such an idiotic accusation.
I guess you ate to much Turkey. Using your logic , every nut case that doesn't get official denial from the government of their fantasies , can claim it is because it is true.
Not your best argument , but I will just chock it up to the fact you are still tripping on tryptophan.
jacob sweeney
posted 10/18/08 @ 9:57 PM MST
Ok since Google has mysteriously LOVED this piece for search term "jacob sweeney" (Google is listing this #1 for "jacob sweeney") here's the deal. I am currently working as the social networking coordinator for Ralph Nader for President 2008. That was a little piece of an example of "bigger and better" and I think i'll go to law school when i'm 40 or something I said a lot of stupid stuff in this thread sorry I was half cocked on mai tai's on some of it. No wonder it's listed #1 for my name. Some of my worst postings ever.
Santa monica drug rehab
posted 10/29/08 @ 11:12 AM MST
We should never forget what Rudy did after the 9/11 attacks, but a pres candidate should be elected on the basis of what he's going to do in the future, not what he's done in the past (that goes for both the good & bad stuff).
jacob sweeney
posted 5/10/09 @ 8:21 PM MST
of course google/youtube recently removed the video of Rudy in Loveland from youtube. "The Obama Deception" is now the #1 most viewed movie on the internet. check it out while you still can at YouTube account: "ChangeDaChannel" .
Registered Independent
posted 5/11/09 @ 1:22 PM MST
What an incredibly stupid movie. Far too moronic to merit any discussion.
Originally posted byjacob sweeney
of course google/youtube recently removed the video of Rudy in Loveland from youtube. "The Obama Deception" is now the #1 most viewed movie on the internet. check it out while you still can at YouTube account: "ChangeDaChannel" .
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Nick
posted 11/10/07 @ 4:19 PM MST
http://www.therealrudy.org
Ron Paul, on the other hand, is the most respectable candidate.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com